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Episode 6 - Golden Browne

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This week on The Davey Damaged Show, Dave is joined by the sensational burlesque performer Golden Browne for a journey that spans continents, cultures, and plenty of unforgettable stories. From her early life in Zimbabwe, through the streets of London, and finally to little old Adelaide, Golden shares the experiences that helped shape the performer and person she is today.

Along the way, they're talking Jamaican bobsled teams, debating whether U2 can ever truly be forgiven for putting songs on everyone's phones, and celebrating one of the greatest dance scenes ever committed to film in Napoleon Dynamite. Throw in some laughs, some nostalgia, and a whole lot of heart, and you've got an episode you won't want to miss.

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This program has been classified MA. It contains sexual references, occasional coarse language, and adult themes.

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Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to the show! It is the David Damage Show for another week. Pleasure to be with you. I am joined this week by a very interesting, very fantastic guest, but you be the judge for yourself. No pressure whatsoever. I'm joined this week by Burlesque Star Golden Brown or Dr. Golden Brown. How are you?

SPEAKER_00

I do know I was a star.

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Hey! Dress for the job you want, not for the job you've got. How are you?

SPEAKER_00

I am well. Thank you, good Sarah, on this very rainy, foggy morning.

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It is quite it is quite a day. It's quite a winter day. You need to put on some sad music and stare out of the wet window. It's one of those days.

SPEAKER_00

Put on cold play yellow.

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Yeah, is that is that one of your sad songs? That's a weird choice.

SPEAKER_00

The music video is on the beach, it's foggy.

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There used to be an Aussie show called The Joint, hosted by the um the wonderful jabber, and he did a parody of that. And I just I can't see that music video without thinking of his parody. Now, for those that don't know, um, I'll give a little background of how I discovered you online. Some people would accuse me of looking for thirst traps and stumbling across your social media, but to be honest, I was looking for pictures of crumpets. So I wrote in Golden Brown, and you just happened to come up. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

SPEAKER_00

I love it. I love it. I love it.

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For those that don't know, who's Golden Brown? Existential crisis time.

SPEAKER_00

Existential crisis.

SPEAKER_02

Well, if we take that section of my identity, Golden Brown Other than the mascot for crumpets, who are you?

SPEAKER_00

Who am I? I am multifaceted, but Golden Brown being my balesque persona is uh a newish uh performer in the Adelaide scene. I do enjoy going into Rising Star. Well, you know. I do enjoy going into my hermitude, so a lot of people do not know who I am, but I enjoy dancing and dancing channeled into burlesque. I do do other things outside of that, but um more so just sort of like a caught jester who hangs around in the background.

SPEAKER_02

I you live in the world that I live in, in the sense that nothing's harder than being a hermit that loves attention. Jin Simmons is a very good thing. It's a very it is such a difficult duality of life.

SPEAKER_00

It is. Gin Simmons uh as Willy Wonka is sort of like how I imagine myself.

SPEAKER_02

Gene Wilder. Jin Wilder! Gene Simmons is so much better. Imagine the sing the fucking bass player of kids as Willy Wonka.

SPEAKER_00

Sorry, Jin Wilder. Gin Wilder being a hermit in a chocolate factory.

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Nothing for you, good dear. And then he does the tongue thing to Charlie. These snorberies taste like snorries and he's licking it with his long tongue.

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Don't cancel me, please don't cancel me.

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No, well, thank you so much for joining me. Um, how are you finding your journey so far in performing in Adelaide? Because it's a it's a clicky city.

SPEAKER_00

Adelaide is very it's the strangest place I've lived.

SPEAKER_02

Don't you fucking dare be diplomatic right now. I want some shit talking. I want you to name names. Let's tag them in fucking social media posts. Let's call out everyone. Who's the shittest burlesque people in Adelaide? Over to you, Dr. Golden Brown.

SPEAKER_00

Well, Dr. Golden Brown is very diplomatic. But Adelaide, it's different because look, I'm from London. Big up London, 64 million people.

SPEAKER_02

Never heard of it. What part of Sydney is that?

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know, northwest London. We we do things differently over there. Whereas Adelaide is two million people, and the balesques there. The balesque scene is very tiny, tiny, tiny, and it's people who've been mostly performing with each other since they were kids.

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Yeah.

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So there's a lot of it's safer to book people who you know rather than to take the chance.

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Yeah.

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So it's been hard to break through, but look, I just love dancing, so I will go where I'm accepted, not where I'm tolerated. So yeah, a lot of people don't know who I am, but I'm here.

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Peek behind the curtain, because there's gonna be some fantastic social media photos of yourself for this episode. You are currently sporting a fantastic tracksuit, a port power beanie, whilst holding a glass of champagne. If that's not the greatest, like you know, juxtaposition of a human. I'm loving it. You actually look like you're dressed for an all saints music video right now.

SPEAKER_00

Well, look, we are on game day, Port Adelaide is playing. We've got the power to win. Okay, so we're cheering and we've got all our teeth. We're educated, we love champagne, despite what people think. So yeah, I'm I'm a representation of all my identities, all my quirks. We can dress it up or we can dress it up.

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As we broadcast here two blocks from the Alberton Oval, it's well, you know, we're the Alberton crowds. Exactly. So you said you're from London originally. Yes. How long did you spend in London? Was it a childhood spent there?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, so um I'm of Zimbabwean background, uh slash South African, slash Scotland, slash Malaysia.

SPEAKER_02

Uh but I Well, my question to you is how do you not have the world's greatest accent of a mixture of all those?

SPEAKER_00

Well, rhetor me this. But yes, um, so I was born in Zimbabwe, but moved to England when I was eight years old, and that's where I remained till I was about 19 and began my nomadic life. Um so yeah, um, eclectic English is my fourth language.

SPEAKER_02

Um you have like compartmentalized nostalgia for each of those eras?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. It's very hard looking back when people ask me like yourself, what's your favorite childhood X It's sort of like in Zimbabwe, in London, as a teenager. Which era are you looking at? Because yes, I've got many influences and yeah, a lot to draw from, particularly, and I'm bigging up my city London, it's extremely diverse to the point where you could be like Drake and be every ethnicity and every accent if you wanted to.

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How do you find uh Australia's casual approach to racism with such a diverse background as yourself?

SPEAKER_00

Funny that. So my PhD is actually looking into language and race, particularly in Australia.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Um, so my PhD, for those who care, is called um Blackness as a identifier. Um so looking at how language is used to describe people who look different, as well as Australia's history with um, you know, the first fleet all the way to present day, how Australia is a black black country, but we don't get to see the black people.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and just the flippant um questions that people ask. So an example I can give is when I first moved to Bathurst, New South Wales, was you know, my first day on campus, walking down to my office for the first time, someone just stopped me and went, Hey, are you a refugee? And it was the first time at age 25 that I'd ever been asked. Something like and I had no idea how to answer that question. And it's something that has made me also become a hermit because at first I was very scared of what people perceived me to be based on what what I looked like.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um so yeah, that's a very complex, very, very complex question.

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Um and also don't accuse me of being better than I am.

SPEAKER_00

No, not not at all. Like I don't believe that every Australian is racist or has racist tendencies.

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You just haven't been here long enough then. I've lived give us time.

SPEAKER_00

Well, One Nation apparently is the most popular party right now, so I am fearing for my life.

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It's happening.

SPEAKER_00

It is happening and it's it's scary. It's very scary.

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It's reality really does. The I think the longer you perceive it, just gets weirder. Like it's one of those something that'll never happen. Oh, that it's happening.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, it's it's happening. Your your worst nightmare is your reality, um, particularly with the orange man.

SPEAKER_02

Um Well, I fucking hate gingers, so the world's going, you know, it's self-redheads.

SPEAKER_00

I love redheads. Let's protect that.

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How you do it.

SPEAKER_00

Let let's let's drop another nugget. Did you know that if you are a redhead and have green eyes, you are 1% of the world because that's the rarest combination.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I'm halfway there, so you know what? I'm deciding I'm a minority.

SPEAKER_00

So well, redheads are a minority.

SPEAKER_02

I think you're being uh generally racist racist to me right now. I'm talking all about yourself. This should be all about me.

SPEAKER_00

Well, in Scotland, darling, you can get discounts on special days just for having your hair colour.

SPEAKER_02

That's insane. They once had the Adelaide Zoo uh bring a ring a day and it was free. Are you sorry?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Rang is our word though, you can't say it.

SPEAKER_00

No, I don't like saying that word. That's why I said redhead because I think redheads are beautiful.

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My mum called it strawberry blonde.

SPEAKER_00

Strawberry blonde is another beautiful term. And I I love like this is going left field, but people with darker skin who are redheads with freckles, like I just find that just really really attractive.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, how you doing?

SPEAKER_00

You're a married man, sir.

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Oh yeah.

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I need to come get your mask.

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Let's talk about it. So let's find out a bit more about uh Dr. Golden Brown. I'm still picturing a cartoon crumpet with a like with scrubs on and like a mirror on the thing every time I say Dr. Golden Brown. But I love it. Hey, lean into it.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. Thank you.

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If you had a MySpace profile, what would your profile song be?

SPEAKER_00

Is this current or we're troubling back?

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Either either.

SPEAKER_00

Well, if it was back then, it's definitely The Falls, My Number. That song I love, you don't have my number. Because I guess at the height of MySpace, uh people were still calling each other and speaking on the phone. What is that? They were riddle me that.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah. Which likes me for me. Yes. Uh, when he says my collection of DVDs, that was 1996. DVDs hadn't even like kicked off yet.

SPEAKER_00

What spaceship was he on?

SPEAKER_02

It was, but it was a huge risk to take. It'd be like saying, like, my collection of laser discs, and it's like, well, laser discs failed.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, my collection of MP3 tapes.

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So lucky. Yeah, yeah. My collection of uh iPod nanos. Who would be cast as you in a movie?

SPEAKER_00

Excuse them, wa.

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Yourself, you're doing it yourself.

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Look, I'm not that egotistical, but if I could raise someone from the dead, it'll definitely be Miles Davis.

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Yeah, right.

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Because look.

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Oh, the old gender swap.

SPEAKER_00

The old gender swap. Well, I'm queer, darling. I I don't know which side of the fence I lay. Fair enough. But look, I it would be the opposite of my life because I give a fuck, and Miles definitely did not give a fuck. So it'll be like sort of like an oxymoron, and it would be rated R.

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Nice.

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Definitely.

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Fuck yeah. One ticket, please. Did you have posters on your wall growing up? If so, what were they?

SPEAKER_00

Well, funny you asked me that question. So also compatibilizing my childhood. So growing up, I prior to moving to England, I'd lived with my grandma and she was a devout Catholic. So we had a lot of pictures of White Jesus on the city.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna say cross stitches of you and McGregor Jesus.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, White Jesus was everywhere. Um, but when I finally got my own room, um, it was a lot of educational posters because I had to learn, I had to be the best in my class. I also had a lot of peanuts, uh, not the nut, but the Charlie Brown.

SPEAKER_03

Penises, okay, yeah, penises.

SPEAKER_00

No, not penis, darling. Peanuts, uh Charles Schutz, um, Charlie Brown and Snoopy. And strangely enough, uh post of Miles Davis and Jimmy Coltrane. I didn't know who they were, but either way just striking.

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Yeah, yeah. Great. Uh do you remember your first celebrity crash?

SPEAKER_00

No, this is gonna sound a bit controversial, um, as they're siblings. Keeping it in the family.

SPEAKER_02

As long as you don't say the Olsen twins, I think we're okay.

SPEAKER_00

Hey. Prince William missed out. He could have married Mary Kate and Ashley. But that's that's a Kanye tweet. But you know. Um but Michael Jackson and Jenna Jackson.

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Right.

SPEAKER_00

First celebrity crushes. I just shiver stomach.

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Oh, he so much of my life, what I thought was cool, was dedicated to what Michael Jackson was doing.

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

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And then it's just become this fucking labyrinth of you know, what you can celebrate and what you can't. I'm like, music.

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Music and the court of law found him not guilty.

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Nothing was proven, and you know what? Next time there's a trial, if they ever want to do like a historical trial, every juror has to watch Moonwalker start to finish and then talk shit about the legend that is Michael.

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Let me tell you, Michael is so disrespected and it's such a shame because yeah, no.

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Before he passed, he released the song uh The Place with No Name, which was, you know, kind of a sample of America's Horse with No Name with this incredible backbeat to it. That is possibly one of his greatest songs, but because of the time it came out, because it was when he was living overseas, hiding in like Bahrain. Yeah, yeah, Bahrain. That song was never never celebrated for the fucking monster classic that it it should have been.

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But the day he died, his music generated over a billion dollars.

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Far out.

SPEAKER_00

And the Beatles catalogue was sold. And that's why Michael Jackson died. Come kill me, Paul McCutney. I don't give any. You had many chances to buy that catalogue. You didn't have to take it that nasty. Come get me Tony Motola from Sony.

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Yes, suck your dick. Michael didn't knock it out. Suck your dick, you big vegan dickhead.

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Cancel!

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If you were a wrestler, what would your entry music, entrance music be?

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Look, if we're continuing on the controversial track, it'll be It's H H by Kanye.

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Oh my goodness. Ladies and gentlemen, clip that, and that is that is horrible. No, no, no. But I'm glad you chose it. That's your right to choose that.

SPEAKER_00

It's not H H by Kanye. Look, that era of Kanye, he's explained. He was going through a mental breakdown. Like he was on the Nangs, and those not in Australia, Nangs are your nitrix gases.

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Um I'm such a fat person. Still to this day, we'll go through the city. I'll see a Nang canister. I'm like, fuck, I want cake.

SPEAKER_00

I want that wood cream. But if I were a wrestler, my entrance song would be by the artist formerly known as Kanye West, who now goes by Ye, and it'll be Carnival.

SPEAKER_03

Nice, good choice.

SPEAKER_00

Should I say the first few lines? Go, go, go. Head so good, she's honourable. She ride that dick like a carnival. I did the impossible. That's all the high pop you need. Shout out to Brody.

SPEAKER_02

I was I'm uh so uncultured when it comes to a lot of music. I discovered Kanye West through Katy Perry. He did a verse on ET.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, he did. And I was like, fuck, this guy's got it. His production level, like his sampling and production level, like to have Elton John and Fergie on the same track and sync their like tracks together. It's just like his his production is just amazing.

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I even love, and I think it's fucking genius of him, and this is probably one of the things I hold so highly with him. Just his approach to doing things differently, like even in the sense of like sometimes he'll hear a song, he'll buy the song, and he'll release the song as Kanye West. All the lights, like fucking That's the one I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_00

Elton John's vocals and Froggy Alicia Keys. The number of vocals that are sampled on that track. Right. Immense. Immense. And I implore everyone to Google.

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Have you seen the music video of the older uh athletic lady dancing around the gym in a Deanna Taylor?

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I'm so in love. Your love is faded.

SPEAKER_02

That music video fucking rules. I'm there's no way they played that on rage, but I'll tell you what, it does something to me.

SPEAKER_00

That's a rage song. And she was just like, Kanye rang me and said, Come do what you need to do. And at the end, she was like, uh, then he said, bring your daughter here, and there were loads of sheep, and I didn't know what was happening.

SPEAKER_02

The first time I saw that music video, I'm like, can you marry a music video?

SPEAKER_00

Damn, Tiana Taylor, like, damn, whatdy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy.

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Anyone listening, do yourself a favor, turn off your uh uh what is it, turn on your age restrictions and watch it on YouTube.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Kanye West fade. That song choreography, immense.

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Yeah, I because I'm I'm a fan of the art of dance, that's why I like it. No other reason.

SPEAKER_00

It's called art. It's art. Not everyone can do it.

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First concert you ever went to.

SPEAKER_00

Damn. This was by chance, absolute chance, you two in London.

SPEAKER_02

Never heard of them. Who are they? Are they new?

SPEAKER_00

They're an Irish Irish band. Unfortunately, they had one.

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So they sound like the pogs.

SPEAKER_00

So it's no, they they they sound like uh they they sound like the sound of rebellion.

SPEAKER_02

Say what you will, like, because obviously it's it's a bit of an easy punchline now, uh, latter-day U2, obviously, with them putting their music on everyone's iPods and all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, we can excuse them.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. But they did that thing around 2002, 2003. They invented that sound of stadium rock that gave the world, you know, later 30 seconds to Mars, Imagine Dragons, all those, whatever that is, even Birds of Tokyo in Australia, it's it's not really something you'd sit down with a guitar and strum out on an acoustic to write. It's this other thing where it's just this big giant production. And that would not exist without you too. But at the flip side, like you go back to Rattle and Human stuff, and they've got like fucking albums that are just songwriting masterclasses. And then, but you also look at like some of the time, it's like Edge isn't actually playing guitar, he's just playing a fucking effects pedal.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I mean, it's all about the look. We still knew who Edge was with his beanie, Bono had the glasses. I mean, U2 is like today's kneecap for the kids out there who don't know.

SPEAKER_03

That's a big call.

SPEAKER_00

It is a big call because in the 80s, 90s. Protest music, protest music, and they spoke about the shit that was happening in the world. Sunday, bloody, sundae, Sunday, bloody, Sunday, freaking a lot of music, like Joshua Tree. If you haven't listened to that album, just listen to it. Like it's yeah, modern day kneecap, I would say.

SPEAKER_02

But then discothec sucks a huge bag of dicks. That album so bad.

SPEAKER_00

Hey, I mean, everyone's allowed to have a flop every once in a while, but the legacy for for the kids out there, um, eighties, nineties, you two, they spoke about you know, African rights, refugees, the injustice of Ireland, the injustice of people around the world, and made it accessible to everyone. Because as a black kid, I mean, I moved to England when I was eight. But I knew about U2 prior to that. And in Africa where you think, Oh yeah, what the fuck? The U two? What what's a U two? I knew about U2. So yeah, without any hesitation, one of the greatest protest bands out there.

SPEAKER_03

So that was your first concert? Yes. Is that also your best concert, would you say?

SPEAKER_00

No. I mean first because when I went to see them, I I think I was 12 or something like that. So I didn't have my brain, I mean, was not at capacity. I would say the best would be again Kanye West at the BBC Proms. He had a full orchestra and he performed graduation. Like it their performers who can perform in a studio but not live.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

They're performers who can perform on a stage with a DJ but not with a full orchestra. That for me, combining the classic and rap, whatever people think of rap, I don't care. It just sends chills down my spine again. Like it's it's a moment that arrests you. Yeah. So that would be my best concert.

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Do you remember the format of the first music you owned? Yes. We before we started, you you showed a huge culturing when it came to different different formats of music, um, old school community radio setups, uh, radio. Yeah, like tell us what was your first?

SPEAKER_00

My first was the glorious cassette. Oh, lovely. Like recording off the radio, like recording songs, so you would hopefully hope the DJ did not do a long intro. Hey guys, I'm about to put on this scroovy track, and hope you didn't speak through the track, else you had to stop your recording. But yeah, the mighty cassette.

SPEAKER_02

That is such a sense memory that you've given me. I I will never hear the song by Mr. Big to be with you. I'll never hear that right at the end where it goes and hits the real high. Yes. I can't hear that without expecting 106.9 Hill FM the cut in over the top on my version I had. It's like, you motherfucker, you talked over the last high note.

SPEAKER_00

Like literally, you had so the kids today have your playlist, like you would have your playlist on a cassette, and it'll be like, okay, I need to record this U2 song because you know I need it to listen to it on my Walkman. You'd play it, hope the DJ did not speak through the whole track, because back then you could play the whole track.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

The whole track.

SPEAKER_02

I also loved the I think the lost art of the bastardization of cassette tape, where if you were lucky enough to have a double player, you could just keep making copies of copies and copies. Yeah, the quality got worse, but you didn't care because you just had love for the music. I even remember and the commitment of doing things in life real time where you had to do the whole thing. I have a very vivid memory of making a mix C a mix cassette for a girl that had nothing but like bush and like fucking all this like real real bro grunge music that I'm she music. She's gonna fall in love with me once she hears Gavin Rosdale put my feelings to music.

SPEAKER_00

It's good, but um not illegally recording the tel um I'm not television, the radio station. Um the first cassette that I bought was You To Beautiful Day, the album. Yeah, amazing. Like I was I think I was 12 years old. No, I was 11 years old. Um and yeah, bought that album on cassette and I still have it today.

SPEAKER_03

Fuck yes. Right.

SPEAKER_02

Oh. Do you have a death row last meal? Darling, do I just I've seen the way you eat popcorn, so I'm be very surprised if that's not in there.

SPEAKER_00

Look, I love food, I love fine dining. I've had the absolute pleasure of Gordon Ramsey cooking for me.

SPEAKER_02

Oh get fucked. I spend all my fucking I'm so jealous. You've seen Kanye Alive, you know that's a great milestone. You've been cooked for by the man that I watch fixing hotels constantly. I'm still watching I'm still watching episodes of Kitchen Nightmare. We've got to paint the front a different colour. If you want to change this, fuck off, and then it'll be super fucking racist to like a French chef, and he's like, You're supposed to be a French French man!

SPEAKER_00

Yes, that the poor French chef walked off. He's like, You're supposed to be a good chef, you fucking the punks and the French will forever have that hatred.

SPEAKER_02

But I love that he's like, alright, international TV show, number one all over the world. I'm gonna be racist to this French man to fix this restaurant that sells nothing but toasted sandwiches.

SPEAKER_00

Look, Ramsey is I mean, he he has lived a life, but yeah, sorry, to to redirect the conversation, that is the best meal I've ever had. I was lucky enough to get a table at the chef's at the chef's table. Yeah, so this was in 2016 in London, of course, my city.

SPEAKER_03

You haven't mentioned like uh you know pick up London.

SPEAKER_00

Look, Adelaide, I love Adelaide, but dude, London is is next level. Um yeah, just happened to link up with my cousin in the city, and he had a spare ticket for me to go dine with Ramsey and his pork belly. I've never tasted crackling as good as that. Like it was hard. Sorry for all the vegetarians, but frankly, it was hard then like it's like biting into a toffee apple, you know that sort of I can't you've just given me uh I can't buy things with my front teeth, it scares me. Oh yeah, like I had no fear. I was like Rams and take my teeth.

SPEAKER_02

I think I've just discovered my enemy, it is a toffee apple.

SPEAKER_00

My my favorite childhood confectionery, I would say, was a toffee apple.

SPEAKER_02

We threw out mum's favorite um deep pan because we fucked up and the toffee set in the bottom.

SPEAKER_00

And it turned into like, yeah, you should have licked it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was glass cement. That's how Gene Simmons, that's his origin story.

SPEAKER_00

I wish the audience could see my tongue right now.

SPEAKER_02

What a time. Favorite store growing up. Oh, and the meal.

SPEAKER_00

We didn't answer the meal. Excuse me, good sir.

SPEAKER_02

This show is not about finishing what we started.

SPEAKER_00

Look, I'm extremely food-driven, is what we were going to. So I've got a four-course meal. Do you have do you have the time?

SPEAKER_03

Let's hear it.

SPEAKER_00

For entree, I would have natural coffin bay oysters. Gross. Okay. With loads of lemon. Like, just keep them coming. I would have at least three dozen. And then following that, I would have aburi Mozambique prawns, and these are giant, ginormous prawns.

SPEAKER_03

Reiterating, gross.

SPEAKER_00

Flame grilled. Delicious.

SPEAKER_02

I pretend to have a seafood allergy. It's so much easier than explaining to people I don't like seafood.

SPEAKER_01

You're missing out. I'm not! You're eating fucking the fish.

SPEAKER_02

You're eating ocean yabies. I'm not interested.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, you're missing out. Look at my nose ring piercing. It's a fish bone. Great. And for my mane, I would have a whole barramandi. You know, like deep fried with a tomahawk steak to go with it.

SPEAKER_02

I'm back on board, other than the barramandi.

SPEAKER_00

With butter, butter, roasted potatoes.

SPEAKER_02

You're a surf and turf person.

SPEAKER_00

And I would have green beans, broccoli, and the best gravy known to men.

SPEAKER_02

I'm fighting growing older, but I'm scared of growing older because it's happening. I'm finding green beans, like in I'll get a paella, and the green beans is the best part of it. And I'm like, this would horrify young me. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00

That's because you're not skipping the prawns. The prawns are the best bit. No. And then for dessert.

SPEAKER_02

I'm allergic to seafood, so.

SPEAKER_00

Oh sucks to be you then. I'm allergic to red meat, but I'm editing the tomahawk.

SPEAKER_02

That's that's racist.

SPEAKER_00

I know. Don't call me that. I'm a blood type O, so I should be in with the beef and everything. But for my last meal, I'll have a tomahawk, because you know. And then for dessert, I'll have teramasu and I'll have monster cookie maxi bon because that is the king of all ice creams. Good answer. I'll keep eating it till I start getting the squirts.

SPEAKER_02

You know what? We've just we've just made up for our fire we had about seafood because that's usually the measurement at which I eat things. It's like this was lovely. I haven't got diarrhea yet, so it's good. You're a very me person. I'm very enjoying it. Oh, what a fantastic idea. It was like, here's the most exquisite and uh the most exquisite meal. Here's the imagery of me shooting liquid fire.

SPEAKER_00

Take take that, Brody. Just just a steak cooked medium. What's that?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, big Brody Marshall. Where's your squirts? What what food makes you get diarrhea, big Brody Marshall?

SPEAKER_00

Big cowboy, you can do better than that.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my goodness. Favorite store growing up, and it could be from any era of the Golden Brown story. Fuck yeah. You're one of us.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and my favorite animal is a giraffe, so you know.

SPEAKER_02

Did you get to experience? No, you would have been. How old were you when you got to Australia?

SPEAKER_00

I was a big rape 23.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, you know what you missed in your socialization of Australia?

SPEAKER_00

What?

SPEAKER_02

The life education ban.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_02

So we learned about drugs and addiction and sex and all these other really tough subjects our parents were too scared to talk about. From a giraffe, puppet.

SPEAKER_00

I I I learned that from Dame Edna and Rolf Harris.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, right. Nice.

SPEAKER_00

Can you tell what it is now? Pedophile.

SPEAKER_02

We have we have a signed book somewhere in this house from Rolf Harris, made out to my wife Anita. It's lovely.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, Anita.

SPEAKER_02

It's a program.

SPEAKER_00

Let's donate that.

SPEAKER_02

Is it worse that she got it personally signed in like 2020?

SPEAKER_00

Um, have you seen the new documentary where he was shoving his tongue down people's throats?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Um, that manager of his they interview that tells a lot of the stories. I'm like, fair enough, you've got all these horrific stories. The common denominator is you're there for all the time. You were there. You were there the whole time, monster. And he's like, oh, then there was two girls and he did this and he said this. I'm like, you were there. Yeah, you're telling saying the things he did that were horrible, but yeah, anyway, that's 20%. That's another podcast for another design.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, but we can delve deeper.

SPEAKER_02

One day you s uh stumble into a corner shop, it has all the things you're nostalgic for. You're in charge. Obviously, you're getting a maxi bone. I need you to get a drink and a snack.

SPEAKER_00

Well maxi bone, of course, monster crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Is it pop is it popcorn and champagne?

SPEAKER_00

Because that is quite the uh quite the I I had to diversify it.

SPEAKER_02

As a kid, I didn't like popcorn, just champagne.

SPEAKER_00

As a kid, persisto.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

That's a passion fruit fizzy Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I know it's like learn English. Oh fuck off.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, English is my fourth language. Ah, definitely that. But if I was an adult, uh, strange love, burnt pie pineapple, delicious. What is that?

SPEAKER_02

Oh is that alcohol?

SPEAKER_00

No, it's a soft drink, and it's burnt pineapple, so it's sort of like a I don't know if you have ever had a little bit of a little bit of a little um Wooly's, other supermarkets available, Drake's, Romeo's.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna have some today.

SPEAKER_00

Doctor Strange Love. Get it. It's gorgeous. And then for the main snack, I would have British fish and chips.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00

Because there's a major difference. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I'm allergic to seafood. I love fish and chips.

SPEAKER_00

Sucks to be you. I'm not gonna say I won't eat crustaceans. I'm not gonna say buffalo wings because people will take racist liberties.

SPEAKER_02

Buffaloes don't have wings.

SPEAKER_00

Well, in my hood they do.

SPEAKER_02

Did you grow up with any video game consoles?

SPEAKER_00

I'm glad you asked. So let's go down the line of the platforms that were available. Here we go, here we go. When I was a youth. Uh so on Sega, we've got Street Fighter. Fuck yes. And we've got Mortal Kombat. Correct. Yes, classic, classic games.

SPEAKER_02

Correct answers.

SPEAKER_00

Uh actually blew up my Sega because my cousins came from New York. They gave me their Sega and I plugged it into British electricity. And yeah, whilst playing Mortal Kombat, it blew up. So yeah, that was a dud.

SPEAKER_02

Did you have a go-to character in Mortal Kombat?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, but off the top of my head right now, I cannot tell you who it was. Yeah. I'm sorry. I should have done more research. That's fine.

SPEAKER_02

You've ruined the whole show, but that's I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Listen. I expected it.

SPEAKER_00

Just send send send your questions on a postcard, and I promise.

SPEAKER_02

We were we were praying for your downfall, and here it is.

SPEAKER_00

So well it it's it's not quite. So anyone who wants to know, send your questions on a postcard. I'm happy, I'm happy to answer them. Um on Xbox, we go to the original first iteration of Xbox. Dead or Alive. That that that was a jam.

SPEAKER_02

Do you remember Dead or Alive? That sand beach ball game that they had.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, yes, that was really sexy. And I didn't know that it's bitching was not a swear, so every time I think his character's name was Ray something, was it was the black guy. I'm sorry, black people. Um but his line was it's bitching, and yeah, I was just like, oh fuck. I used to feel so scandalous playing it. Um on in Nintendo Game Boy, we've got Donkey Kong.

unknown

Oh, fuck.

SPEAKER_00

A lot of Donkey Kong fans out there, and Bud Simpson's Escape from Camp Deadly.

SPEAKER_02

That's it. Wow, yes. I had uh versus the Space Mutants, Bart versus Space Mutant. That game's horrible. I've revisited it, I bought it and play it all the time. It's real bad.

SPEAKER_00

Notice how I didn't mention Mario Kart because that's cliche.

SPEAKER_02

Well done.

SPEAKER_00

Well done.

SPEAKER_02

I would then have to assert dominance and brag about I could probably beat you playing Mario Kart with me using a guitar hero guitar as the controller. How good I am. Um let's have a look. Do you have a best Christmas or birthday present you ever received?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. It's my tricycle that I got when I was three years old. Nice. I still have vivid dreams up to now at my big age of that tricycle, riding it at my big age and trying to fit on a like three-year-old's tricycle.

SPEAKER_02

It looked like jigsaw from Solar.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, or yeah, exactly that scene, but vivid dreams, like my most vivid dreams off that Christmas present.

SPEAKER_02

So that's rad. I love that that's still a part of your brain.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Brody. Get it together.

SPEAKER_02

In your phone right now, how much of a monster are you? How many unread texts and emails?

SPEAKER_00

I've been I've been really good. So I've got zero unread texts. Nice. I've got seven missed calls as of today. And my main email, because you know, at my age, you've got hundreds of email addresses because you needed the fake Netflix accounts, fake Netflix, free trials, the porn hub age verification one.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we've all been there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that one got me, and I wasn't sure about that. And my face.

SPEAKER_02

This is the future is at our doorstep. Do you want to take a selfie right before you jack it to some internet porn? Because that's the world we live in now.

SPEAKER_00

But it's sort of like when you've got cock in hand, you're ready to go, then you you have to take a selfie, find your ID. All these things.

SPEAKER_02

But it it's it's it's standing on the verge, and it's it's a scary place because it's like the last thing I want to see before I see what uh you know my good friend Angela White's been up to is my own fucking puffed out red face. I'm good, I'm in a terrible angle. There's no, and then it's like I love when it's like unable to verify. Turn your head to the left, turn your head to the right.

SPEAKER_00

I was like, no, this is too much of a turn my cock to the left and the right.

SPEAKER_02

It is funny though, because on one of the age verifiers I used, it just says put in your oldest email address. Yes. So I put in like a hotmail account, and the second I wrote hotmail, it's like, are you okay, grandpa?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, grandpa.

SPEAKER_02

It's mature. The only category you can view when you put hotmail in is just matures. Nothing.

SPEAKER_00

Nothing wrong with the mature category. Big up, big up to K.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no, yes, I I also enjoy the matures because it's funny because a lot of them are the ones that I watched in high school that are now considered MILFs or matures. It's like, how dare you? How very dare you!

SPEAKER_00

I think this could be a a a Patreon episode.

SPEAKER_02

Let's let's let's let's let's save the rest of this commentary for I always had the idea for my old podcast, but my co-host wasn't about it, where we we do a what you know the way everyone does watch alongs.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. To do a porn watch-along and like just describe it'll have to be a vintage one because modern day cinematics just you're you're just there. There's there's no storyline, there's no lead up.

SPEAKER_02

Back in the day, that the bum was like a grand finale, and now you're just like two seconds in, you Yeah, it it's it's ready. I mean I remember you'd fast forward on VHS, you'd fast forward for three minutes, and they hadn't even taken the dude's pants off.

SPEAKER_00

The storyline was just immaculate.

SPEAKER_02

And now you skip forward ten seconds, and it's like, oh shit, I've missed all of it. You you go from like the opening sentence like, oh, it's nice to meet you, Mrs. Blah blah blah. Skip ten, and you're like, I wasn't ready for that. Where did the tentacles and the horse come from?

SPEAKER_00

This is the thing. This is why Kay Parker and her golden age, 17 age.

SPEAKER_02

Abu on VHS.

SPEAKER_00

Let's save that discussion for Patreon because I I want to I definitely want to delve into that.

SPEAKER_02

That is we've just I've just fallen more in love with you because you know who Kay Parker is.

SPEAKER_00

This is what happens once you go black. I was gonna say sorry, Anita.

SPEAKER_02

I'm a real lexicon stexicon a little bit, lexington steel. Righty oh. That is funny because we're talking about your childhood tricycle and it ended up on K Park.

SPEAKER_00

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02

Batman got his name from a fear of bats with the same logic. What is your superhero name?

SPEAKER_00

Look, I thought long and hard about this, and it will be Dr. Incompetence.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00

Or Dr. Weaponized Incompetence. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I thought you said incontinence the first time, and you're like, No. Diarrhea from eating too much seafood is my You're like, but no, that's the goal.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, in inc weaponized being shit at what you do. Or pretending, yeah. Or just not inquiring enough. Yeah. Like have a sense of pride in what you do. Yeah. And at least find out because there's nothing worse than asking someone, let's say a burlesque performer, what who is your inspiration? And it's just crickets. Yeah. There there's nothing for an example.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I do burlesque because I don't I want to be a stripper, but I don't like cardio.

SPEAKER_00

So well, you know, I mean, yeah, just just be informed. Just have an inquiring mind. But in the world we live in with so much technology and the evil AI at our fingertips, there's no reason to say I don't know. Inquire. Yeah. Doctor Incompetence.

SPEAKER_02

I'm slowly getting sold on AI, and can I justify myself?

SPEAKER_00

Antichrist.

SPEAKER_02

I don't care about water, that's the first thing. I use single-use plastics, I'm fine. I'm joking.

SPEAKER_00

You live in the driest continent.

SPEAKER_02

I'm joking. But point counterpoint AI is being used to take the traumatic scenes out of films as a joke. There's a recent one where Artax from Never Ending Story, the horse, gets taken out of the mud, and there's one where uh the um the kid Bennett from uh My Girl, Macaulay Colkin, doesn't get stung by the bees.

SPEAKER_00

So see that's these I'm all about. That's a good use of AI.

SPEAKER_02

Amen.

SPEAKER_00

However, finding out random trivial things that you can open a book for.

SPEAKER_02

Like oh no, yeah. I I'm even upset now with Google giving me the AI thing.

SPEAKER_00

The yeah, the the lack of search results.

SPEAKER_02

And I I even I'm part of a a toy uh Facebook group. Yeah, toy boy, yes. I'm part of a toy and beer group. Shout out to the toys and beers group chat. And it's funny because I don't check my phone all day while I'm at work if I'm busy. And so I'll get out and there'll be like 80 notifications because I've missed that, which was nothing. And I showed them the other day, it fucking cracked me up. It said, Do you want AI to summarize this? Like, yes. And it goes, one member talked about a toy loan and everyone reacted. I'm like, no shit. That's what the whole fucking thing is. Tell me some specific shit.

SPEAKER_00

Tell me something I don't know. Like, my angst against AI is particularly in the arts. It is taking a lot of jobs. So things like audio editing, for instance.

SPEAKER_02

Everything I learned doing um which I do for the podcast, thankfully. Everything I do for the podcast that I learned through commercial radio is no longer a job.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

The hours I'd spend photoshopping a dick into one of my friends' mouths to send to a group chat or to have insult them, put them in a gay scenario, all these things. AI just does it in 10 seconds now.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that's the thing. But real artists as well, painters, like freaking people who've gone and done a fine arts degree.

SPEAKER_02

Anyone that considers them anyone that basically grew up the age that we grew up went and did the 80s everybody. Everyone that went and did a course and became a graphic designer. I'm sorry, but you're no longer a graphic designer.

SPEAKER_00

Out of employment. And it's also extended sorry, extending to the services industries. So on cruise ships, they now have automated uh bartenders. So like even a services industry, like those jobs are being wiped away. And the level of just even the summarization, so you don't actually have to read a book to know what it's about. You can just get the nutshell of it. And it's sort of degrading our society because we are sort of the first ones who won't have anything to leave, like a physical artifact. Yeah. But it is all within this the cloud or their own.

SPEAKER_02

And the fact that we are on the the you know, the cusp of medical professionals that may not have learned the learning. Yes. They just fucking got ChatGBT to do their job.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that's the thing, but they're also implementing robotic surgery. So surgeons, like the most coveted career that traditionalist parents used to say, become a surgeon.

SPEAKER_02

All the action films I grew up with told me not to trust robots.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Now that is all being replaced. So that's my only angst is that we are some almost subordinate, like there's AI musicians that are generating millions of dollars, which is kind of like an oxymoron. Um, AI painters that are generating artworks in five seconds.

SPEAKER_02

And it's so there's AI robots that put the lids on um toothpaste, like in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory remake.

SPEAKER_00

And in China they've had robots rebel, hit children, run away.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's also where I'm conflicted because you're telling me that AI is bad, but then when I saw that robot with a wig kick the child, I'm like, I'm I'm on board. I want more children kicked by robots. That's that's the official stance of both the Davy Damage Show and Dr. Golden Brown.

SPEAKER_00

No, that is children need to be kicked by robots, kicked by robots, kicked by robots. Refute, refute that statement kicked by robots, protected kids, kicked in the face by robots, not the stomach like that. Especially the Davy damaged children.

SPEAKER_02

Davy meaning robots and damaged meaning damaged. I want children damaged by robots. Not my children. It's not funny when it's my kids, but fuck man. Someone I don't like skids, round house that kid in the face.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, Chuck Norris.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I want an axe kick from the end of the first expendables by a robot to uh I don't want to get specific, but yeah, by kids. Right-oh, moving right along while things are going well. You're in charge of choosing one movie and one album for the entire world, or one song, should I say, for the entire world to listen to. What are we listening to?

SPEAKER_00

So this is a very tough question for me because I'm sort of like this is everyone, like nearly eight billion people on the planet to listen to it. So it's not my personal fave.

SPEAKER_02

It's sort of like Oh, you're gonna weld it you're gonna wield this power for good, aren't you?

SPEAKER_00

Heal the world. Make it a better place for you and for me and the entire human race.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not a singer, so please Dangerous was a fucking monster album.

SPEAKER_00

So I would say for the film any of Sir David Attenborough's documentary films, if we were being on a serious tip, but also concurrently cool running. All acceptable because it just has so many meanings and messages. So David Attenborough, like protect him, God bless him, he's a hundred years old. Let's mummify him, build him a pyramid.

SPEAKER_02

When are you going to do a cool running spurlesque show?

SPEAKER_00

Well Libby, Libby, if you're listening, we we need to do a movie theme.

SPEAKER_02

Come out in the black onesie, yes. With the butts, the butt cheeks cut out of him.

SPEAKER_00

Booty butt, booty butt, booty butt cheeks.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. And do the there's a famous old uh skit from a show called Hey Hate Saturday where they came out with chairs and pretended to be on bobsleds. You've got to add sexiness to that somehow. I'm I'm coming. I will play John Candy.

SPEAKER_00

Will you kiss the lucky egg?

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, man. Sankha, you're dead. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02

But the reason I love that's not fair that you get to do accents. I'm not allowed. This is it's a superpower.

SPEAKER_00

Let's just pull the black card for once.

SPEAKER_02

Do you ever on the phone lean into stuff to like it depends who I'm speaking to?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Like, um, look, I can bring the rah-rah, but most of the time people think I'm white till they see me. And that's been a problem with the black folk, but I'm like, I didn't realize you weren't until you just said that right there. Well, you know, I I just tan. I I I tan really well.

SPEAKER_02

I'm so white that everyone has the same complexion as you to me.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, Cool Runnings has just got so many powerful messages about when plan A doesn't go to plan and when you have to diversify, when you look different from everybody else, and just learning to love and not give up. So yeah, um, I would say that that would be the film. And then in terms of music, it's H H again. No, not H H he is apologized for that. And I happen to be born in 1988, and for those people who hail the bastard, please leave my number out of it. Please. Yeah. Okay. Uh, because of course H is the eighth letter of the alphabet. So yeah, yep. Y'all are.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, no shit.

SPEAKER_02

But I just did not know what that yeah, the 88 was about, but that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00

But it's also the second, it's the bicentenary of um Australia, so we'll we'll we'll acknowledge it as well.

SPEAKER_02

That's it. I remember the fucking hot air balloons from 1988 from the centenary. I was just a fetus. They flew all around Australia.

SPEAKER_00

I was a fetus till October. Then I was an infant or whatever they're called.

SPEAKER_02

A meet us. That's the next stage after fetus.

SPEAKER_00

Sorry, I didn't know the gastation stages.

SPEAKER_02

Fetus, then you meet us.

SPEAKER_00

Then you meet us as the parents.

SPEAKER_02

Then you meet us. Ah, well done.

SPEAKER_00

Boom, boom, boom.

SPEAKER_02

Dad jokes, you're in the right place.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Um, song, it'll have to be Dave Bubeck. Um again, the best-selling jazz um album single of all times. Um, for the reason, again, being it was a unifying moment where Dave being one of the only no, he was the second white person. Um, he put his black pianist front and center because at that time it was still a lot of segregation, and he was like a colossal F you. If I'm gonna perform, you have to acknowledge every member of the band. And so that was for for him to take that risk and for that to be the best-selling jazz single of all time, yeah. I I believe the world needs to listen to it as a unifying moment. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you've loaded that answer in a way where I can't make any levity or any jokes about it. So good choice is my words.

SPEAKER_00

You know.

SPEAKER_02

Is there a film you loved growing up simply because you owned it on DVD or taped it off television?

SPEAKER_00

Look, Michael Jackson's history tour.

SPEAKER_02

Fuck yes.

SPEAKER_00

That is what got me into dancing. When he's on the crane, just watching him move, just watching him like put his body to the test.

SPEAKER_02

Like that blonde guitarist with the massive hair.

SPEAKER_00

She fucking phenomenal. Like she said with Michael, Michael just said, tell her, told her, just play. Like, I want to vibe off you. And she was like, that was the biggest accolade I've ever had. And just seeing that and seeing like people who came before, like slash, you it's just a moment that just grips you and just holds you. And that's a performer to me, that's a musician. If I'm paying money to see someone, I want to see that level of talent. Yeah, I don't want to see a DJ, I don't want to see no like fucking no dancing, no sweat. Please step aside.

SPEAKER_02

I love the all the behind-the-scenes footage I released.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Where he is like, you guys aren't doing exactly what I expect.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

You guys need to step the fuck up.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like literally, I need the spot like here. Should I drop? Should I like to me that's an artist? None of this, like, and I'm sorry, and but I frankly don't give a fuck. Sabrina Carpenter, Taylor Swift, like, step aside. Like, nah. Yeah that is not performance to me. Like, you have to perform better than the CD. It has to justify me paying more than the CD price to come see you.

SPEAKER_02

And it's here's the cancellable, he's the this is what I'm getting canceled for. It's this subject. You look at the way Joe Jackson raised them like machines. They weren't kids, they were machines.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_02

It's horrible. There's no taking away from what he did was horrible.

SPEAKER_01

He worked.

SPEAKER_00

It did, but the strangest thing is Michael in a lot of his interviews said he forgave Joseph.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

For how he treated the boys. Yeah. For the girls, I can speak for, but Michael always said, I forgive my father because I appreciate the hard work he put into us and made us realize how hard because I could have been in Gary, Indiana, and dead.

SPEAKER_02

But even you see, um, you see the behind the scenes videos we're talking about. Sometimes that Joe comes out in Michael when someone doesn't give him what he's expecting. He's like, You're half-assing it, or you're missing your cue, you're missing that. If I he he kind of got that mentality where he's like, if I'm doing my job properly, no one else has an excuse for not doing their job properly.

SPEAKER_00

And again, one of his role models, James Brown, James Brown would call you out on stage and be like, get it together, but you wouldn't know.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But the band would know, and he wouldn't pay you for that shit. Yeah. Because you'll be like, I'm finding you. You didn't wear the uniform, you didn't hit the note when I wanted you to. So fuck you.

SPEAKER_02

And Prince was like that as well.

SPEAKER_00

Prince was like that, but I'm still Cam Jackson.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, absolutely. Let's look at some of your favorite films now that we know you as a person. Wow. We're going back to 2004. Yes. This film was made for approximately $400,000 but went on to make $46 million worldwide. Filmed in Preston, Idaho, featuring the actor, the acting debut of John Heter, who was paid $1,000 for the role of Napoleon Dynamite, even though it featured one of the greatest dance sequences that was completely choreographed by Heter at the end. We are talking about the classic Napoleon Dynamite.

SPEAKER_00

You know this boogie is for real. I love Jimara Quai as well.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I only recently stumbled across the making of Virtual Insanity's music video to find out the floor's not moving. Yes, it's Jimara Kai. It is the biggest Wizard of Oz moment where you're like, what do you mean he's not a wizard?

SPEAKER_00

JK, like big, big, big love.

SPEAKER_02

What a fucking video. So I've got a couple of questions for you.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

In this movie, what mythical animal does Napoleon draw as a gift for Deb?

SPEAKER_00

A Liger.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. A cross between a lion and a tiger. It is. It is. I like when I love the way this film is made, particularly in the sense that like sometimes they'll cut halfway through dialogue.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And it's perfect because you only get a little glimpse of what the martial arts instructor is. Oh my greatest inspires my pantroids.

SPEAKER_00

I love it. The US flag, like literally saying, like what is it?

SPEAKER_02

No one wants a roundhouse world that these bad boys are.

SPEAKER_00

And here we work as a team. You'll never walk alone. And keep saying, Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting to girls online.

SPEAKER_02

All day. It's getting pretty serious.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter. Like, literally, for a neurospicy person like me, I got it the first round. Yeah. But the number of people who go, What the fuck? What is this?

SPEAKER_02

I was thoroughly entertaining the first round.

SPEAKER_00

Like literally, like country life Idaho, Napoleon catching a bass for for Deb, like Deb dropping off her little chatkis at the door, Grandma busting her cockx, writing like set writing ATVs on sand dunes, Uncle Rico chucking a football all across the mountain.

SPEAKER_02

Like I love when he throws the steak in the boards. Yeah. You should get a job, Napoleon. Come in, you didn't, Tina. You've ticked.

SPEAKER_04

Tina, you felt llama.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, here's my next question for you. What shirt became one of the most popular movie-related fashion items sold in the early 2000s?

SPEAKER_00

Shirt.

SPEAKER_02

A t-shirt.

SPEAKER_00

Is it the one one with the wolves and stuff? No.

SPEAKER_02

It is vote for Pedro.

SPEAKER_00

Vote for Pedro. Yes, how could I forget that?

SPEAKER_02

That became one of the highest selling shirts of the TV.

SPEAKER_00

And big up to Bob, uh, who dabs a Pedro Skit. Uh, one of our led by a Minnesota ballest performers. Yeah. But yeah, um, yeah, literally Pedro from Juarez.

SPEAKER_02

Um, another that horrible fucking drawing he does.

SPEAKER_00

You're taking like three hours shading your shading your mustache and like freaking Pedro's cousins, picking up Tina and Napoleon for the prom when Pedro shaves his head and he gets a wig.

SPEAKER_02

Kip proving that the uh Tupperware is indestructible, just popping it with a van.

SPEAKER_00

Driving over it and then driving off once it smashes, and him getting with La Fonda.

SPEAKER_02

La Fonda. Rodeo, looking at your next film, we're back in 1999.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

It is set in California, known locally as The Wood. The story centers around a wedding day, childhood memories, starring Omar Epps, Tay Diggs, and Richard T. Jones. Tell us about the film The Wood.

SPEAKER_00

Look, when I first watched that film, I think I was about 10 years old. But it was back in the day. So I watched it on MTV. It's an MTV movie production.

SPEAKER_02

So Shadowed uh Joe's Apartment.

SPEAKER_00

R.I.P. MTV. That's that's gone. For those who don't know what MTV is, basically it played music videos all day long, but there were there was MTV 2.

SPEAKER_02

Then it hit its golden age with Jackass and Viva La Bam and then Wild Boys, and then it became music for a little bit longer, and then it just became the ridiculousness channel and it was garbage bullshit. Oh god. Fuck you, Rob Dydeck.

SPEAKER_00

I can't believe Rob is bankrupt. Like literally I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_02

He had like the most lucrative deal. I think he was getting millions and millions of episodes.

SPEAKER_01

He got for playing fucking YouTube to people.

SPEAKER_00

Of money and his bankrupt. What?

SPEAKER_01

But suck a dick, Dyedek. You killed MTV.

SPEAKER_00

In the early 2000s, MTV used to also make movies. But I think this is an MTV and Paramount venture. So the word for me was again like Napoleon Dynamite. It's sort of like a cuss back to your teenage life. So this is days leading up to their mate's wedding. But sort of like things, silly things you did as a kid. So trying to impress girls, like dancing with them, like dancing up close, getting your first heart on, and sort of like scouring away, going, Oh my gosh! Like, you know, um your first fight. I'm not sure if fights are still a thing at high school, but it used to be like, Oh, I'm gonna fight you after school, and then like everyone would gather, surprisingly. Now it's filmed, it's the reason there's no mobile phones, but like you'd gather and like everyone would fight. So it's sort of like going back from present time to back in the day, and it's just like sort of the silly things we thought were that deep in in high school, like sending a note to your favorite girl, speaking to her for the first time, her big brother bashing you in. Do do big brothers still bash people in?

SPEAKER_02

I'm wondering that my daughter would bash up both her big brothers, so I don't know how that would go.

SPEAKER_00

So, yeah, um, it's it's one of those nostalgic movies that taps into my neurospiciness.

SPEAKER_02

What famous hip-hop-centric area in California is this film named after?

SPEAKER_00

Look, the the great LBC with uh Too Short, even though his music came after the film was meant to be based in, but it just gave that sort of like early underground hip-hop movement. It was still mainstream because it was on mainstream on MTV, but it's just Inglewood, California. There you go. The home of Snoop Dogg.

SPEAKER_02

Now we're jumping back to a film we've already touched on from 1993, based on the true story of the Jamaican Bob Sed team in the 1988 Winter Olympics.

SPEAKER_00

Jamaica, we have a blobsled team.

SPEAKER_02

Starring jog candy. We are talking about the fucking fantastic film Cool Runnings.

SPEAKER_00

I have pride, I have power, I'm a badass murder who don't take no crap off of nobody.

SPEAKER_02

And yet when I do the accent, it's a problem. This movie I think was shown every year in primary school twice on a much like over there, a TV on a wheeled cast.

SPEAKER_00

That was the best day of school, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_02

Amazing. When you saw that thing, what about the double up, pouring rain outside and the fucking TV? You watch a few episodes of fucking Round the Twist, then after lunch, you'd have to watch fucking Storm Boy, but then the Piste Resistance was cool runnings. What a film.

SPEAKER_00

You know it. A Disney film at that.

SPEAKER_02

Whatever. Back when Disney meant something.

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

SPEAKER_02

What were your thoughts? Did you ever see the film The Air Up There?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. It's uh it's a White Saviour story. Oh Kevin Bacon is a basketball coach that goes to Africa to get the son of you have sex.

SPEAKER_00

You've just unlocked a memory like in Kenya and has to go through the rituals and shit. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

That movie's great. I've got it somewhere over there on VL2.

SPEAKER_00

You've literally unlocked like a repressed memory. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Traumatic. The the whole circumcision and scene. Let's fast forward, but yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02

Fuck yeah. That's a Disney film. Ace Ventura 2. Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction. Hey, Weinstein's a yeah, different time.

SPEAKER_00

Let's save that for Patreon.

SPEAKER_02

That's the Patreon one.

SPEAKER_00

Gwyneth Paltraw, Weinstein. Let's let's dig into it.

SPEAKER_02

I love the story, and just quickly touching on it, of Brad Pitt grabbing Harvey Weinstein by the throat and basically saying, because he was more famous than Harvey was.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. But I I've just gently invited myself to the Patreon episodes, everybody.

SPEAKER_02

That's yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, let's let's let's delve deeper into that. Nice.

SPEAKER_02

We're going back to 1965.

SPEAKER_00

Damn.

SPEAKER_02

It was a good year.

SPEAKER_00

No contraceptive. No, no STIs.

SPEAKER_02

No contraceptive.

SPEAKER_00

Apart from syphilis. Get tested, everybody.

SPEAKER_02

Charlie Brown Christmas. Speaking of syphilis. The first Peanuts television special, based on characters created by Charles M. Shorts, features a jazz soundtrack. Oh, you're such a jazz wanker. Burlesque, everything. Won both an Emmy and a Peabody Award. Okay. What kind of tree does Charlie Brown choose in this film?

SPEAKER_00

The littlest beautiful fest.

SPEAKER_02

The smallest, scraggliest Christmas tree.

SPEAKER_00

But the meaning behind it was against the commercialization and capitalization of Christmas and getting back to the real meaning of by making a cartoon about Christmas.

SPEAKER_02

I see it.

SPEAKER_00

Hand drone, no AI.

SPEAKER_02

That's it.

SPEAKER_00

Every scene hand drone.

SPEAKER_01

How come cartoons, if I are so good, why don't why do cartoons still suck?

SPEAKER_00

Cartoons don't still suck. Cartoons have started to suck.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Make them good again. Yeah, we need to Just make regular show forever and I'll watch it.

SPEAKER_00

I love regular show. Same. Motty, Rigby.

SPEAKER_02

I spend all my time watching that fucking show. Everything about it. This special was given no real special treatment when it came out because the network were positive it was going to be a failure. It's gone on to be one of the most long enduring Christmas specials of all time. Still played to this day every Christmas throughout the US. Um, rivaling only things like the Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and Frosty the Snowman. Uh so was your love for peanuts or Christmas or a bit of both?

SPEAKER_00

What was it was my love for peanuts first. Like I Charles Schutz has my heart. Like he broached a lot of things that kids observe growing up, but the language comes as an adult, but he put them into kids' shows.

SPEAKER_02

Do you do you um see the parallel of obviously your neurospiciness and the way the teacher talks? Yes. That's boring people to me.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. But it was a lot of messages like Snoopy being able to go to school, good being able to go to the library as a normal kid.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it's sort of like as a neurospice, it's like, yeah, sure, why not? I could just dress up my kid in Joe Cool jacket, and my dog looks like a human. But yeah, it a lot of social political messages were brought through that comic strip and just the long running of it, and he did it out of the love of unifying people. I guess that's what as adult Golden Brown that has resonated with me. But yeah, it's just such a classic. And for him to think that it was gonna be a flop, it's been referenced so much. Kanye West again has referenced it. Uh Outcast uh Hey Yah video, so the alternate video they do the peanut scene from a Charlie Brown Christmas.

SPEAKER_02

I've only ever seen the uh the Love Below performing in Sullivan style.

SPEAKER_00

Also the Far Side uh back in the day, they referenced that uh music video. So it's like a cult cult classic, yeah, but also has a powerful message, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Fuck yeah. Righty oh, let's go back to the 70s, specifically 1974, a good year that we both remember well. Yes, it's um now. I need to get this out of the way before we talk about this um film. Sophia Rand's big old titties. Right. I've touched on what I want to touch on. Now you you tell us about this film. What is a brief encounter?

SPEAKER_00

That is the wrong version, sir. Really? You've gone for it every time. We're going to 1945.

SPEAKER_02

Oh well, you know what? I would like to talk about the thing that I would like to talk about. Sophie Sophia Ren's big old titties. But let's look from 1945, directed by David Lean, based on the play Still Life by Noel Cowan, frequently ranked as one of the greatest British films of all time, famous for its use of the piano concerto number two. Where Dolora and Alec first meet? Tell me.

SPEAKER_00

That film came to me by surprise. So story time.

SPEAKER_02

Black and white, so you've lost me. Where's the rockin' colour?

SPEAKER_00

Where's the forking collar? So the way I came about this film, and again, very surrependius? Whatever the word.

SPEAKER_02

Surreyus?

SPEAKER_00

Someone help us. Uh, but literally I was living in in Austria at that time, circa 2000. Serendipitous.

SPEAKER_03

Serendipitous.

SPEAKER_00

That's the living in Austria. I landed um and I was travelling back home. Got on a train near Christmas time.

SPEAKER_02

Trains in Austria have a rich history.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, sorry. I flew back to London.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I was on the underground, on the Metropolitan line, headed home. So you can sort of guess where where I could be from. Um, but this guy was sitting opposite me, got off the train, and he left this bag of HMV. HMV is sort of like a sanity JB. Oh, yeah. I know the red logo of the Yeah, yeah, with um the big um old-fashioned gramophone and the dog. Um, but yes, did you know that that gramophone horn is known as uh morning glory?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_00

After the morning glory flower, not something off.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. My brain went to boner. No lie.

SPEAKER_00

Some more trivial knowledge for you. But this guy left that there, and then I took it and I was the doors closed. So I was like, look, I'll take it back to HMV.

SPEAKER_02

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Revisionist History with Golden Brown. She explains it how she used to steal shit from people on the train.

SPEAKER_00

No, I did not steal it. So I took it back to HMV and said, Can you refund it back to his cards? And they said, Look, without his card, we can't refund it. So I was stuck with this 10 DVDs.

SPEAKER_02

You're like, so can I swap it for shit I love?

SPEAKER_00

But I I gave back eight and I was like, just take them back. And I kept a brief encounter. I'd never watched it, put it in, and it changed my life. But basically, the reason why I love it after all this preamble is it's Was it the live piano player that played a long time?

SPEAKER_02

No, it wasn't anything. Because it's old and black and white.

SPEAKER_00

I'm old and I'm black and white, but you know. Um, no, it wasn't that. But it was more so it was the first time that British realism, which is the style that the film is filmed in and that Noel Cald is known for, was the first time a woman was given like a leading sort of her thoughts were at the foreground, not the men's. It was her going through all these emotions and going through all these soliloquies in her mind that really got me. And at that time I was going through changes. Cha-cha changes! Um, and so it just re resonated with me, and one of the lines that really, really, really stuck with me at the end of the day. Can I guess what it was? Go on.

SPEAKER_02

Sophia Lorenz's big old titties.

SPEAKER_00

No. Okay. It it wasn't that. But it was uh sorry, let me just go there. It was the character of Laura, uh, who's the main female lead, going, and this is her secret thoughts. I had no thoughts at all. Only an overwhelming desire not to feel anything ever again. And at that time in my life, that was the line that stuck with me, but it's just so pronounced. Like British realism, for those who have not started film, is sort of like bringing your emotions to the fore. Like, so music that piano concerto that was referenced, the sound of a stem engine when thinking and things are boiling, it was sort of brought to the forefront. So cinematography-wise, it was epic, but we can we can discuss this later. But yeah, it was just such a touching moment of a woman cheating, particularly in the 40s or thinking about cheating. It was unheard of. It was filmed in the last days of World War II, and they actually had to stop to celebrate German's Germany's surrender whilst filming it.

SPEAKER_02

So it's just a lot of things that are happening that are just that's probably the second coolest synchronicity of a film being filmed while the world events around it change the world. Yes. Because uh I love in the film uh Master of Disguise. There's a terrible scene about the Turtle Club.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And uh it's probably one of the worst scenes ever put to film. Was filmed on September 11th, oh, 2001.

SPEAKER_00

You a lot of things happened on September 11th, 2001.

SPEAKER_02

That's the only one I know of. Just the filming.

SPEAKER_00

Let's let's save it for Patreon.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, you've got something to tell me about.

SPEAKER_00

Something to tell me about?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Let's it's a massive dip dive that I've I've undertaken. But you know, ask Dave. If you if you don't hear about this, ask Dave where I've been. Yeah. Because I I've volunteered myself.

SPEAKER_02

Uh so if it doesn't happen, it's my fault.

SPEAKER_00

It it is all, all your fault.

SPEAKER_02

It is time we discuss music.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Believe it or not, after all that talk, all that racism from you, blatant racism that I will not stand for. It's not what the show's about. We're here about tears, the David Dammy show. 2012, we're going back to to start things off, a concept album based on Kendrick Lamar's experiences growing up in Compton, featuring swimming pools, bitch, don't kill my vibe, poetic justice, all great songs. Poetic Justice famously featuring Mr. Drake, who's now the biggest fucking enemy. This is like seeing, you know, like Obi-Wan and fucking Anakin working together when you know what becomes of it in only a few short years after this was released. Which City Central album? What story is the central setting for this album?

SPEAKER_00

Compton. Straight out of Compton. Um this album just touches my heart because it explains that your where you're born does not determine where you end up.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, we should have mentioned, sorry, mad city uh good kid mad city.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um, so you can be born anywhere, you can make it out, but there's some people who want to remain there.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, yep. Um it's almost it almost leans into themes of self-sabotage. Yeah. Like this is as good as it gets, so I'm not trying hard.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So your city, he also speaks about his family. So swimming pools is about his granddad, who was a functioning alcoholic, and yeah, you dive into a pool full of liquor to solve all your problems. Or Money Trees is about selling, you know, weed, selling yayo on the street, but you might make it, you might not. It might be the last time you see your mate for 30 years.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It's about, you know, your best friend being shot up by gangbangers and not knowing what to do. You have mates retaliating, but you going to a pastor's house and going, pray over me so that I do not lose myself in the retaliation of it all. So it's a very, again, poignant album that speaks to me that yeah, through all adversity, you can make it out, but there's some people you have to leave behind.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely. And this one's considered by many metrics to be one of the greatest hip-hop albums ever made. And it's already been preserved by the Library of Congress's National Recording Registry, which uh isn't very usual so quickly after something is released. So uh just tells you the cultural phenomenon that it was.

SPEAKER_00

That it was, and his next album went on no, not his next, his third album went on to win a Pulzer Prize.

SPEAKER_02

And fucking McLamore, Ryan Lewis is fucking the highest. Beat this for a Grammy. What a load of shit.

SPEAKER_00

Whoa, the the Grammys are rigged. They've been rigged since the mid-2000s thereabouts. Um look, it's about the cultural phenomena, and Kendrick has said like it's about helping people who look like me, who are in situations that I used to be in. So Grammys are just a privilege, but as long as the message is getting out, which I think some artists have forgotten about, it's more so about the accolades rather than touching people in a very appropriate way.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely, absolutely. I've just accidentally shot the wrong thing, so shavvy it out. Let's look at your next album. It's something that you've referred to thousands of times on this episode so far. It completed the college trilogy following the college dropout and late registration, released on the same day as Fifty Cents as Curtis, features stronger, flashing lights, and can't tell me nothing, won the Grammy for Best Hip Hop, our best album, and it's from 2007. We are talking about Yee's graduation.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Um this is a very important album to you.

SPEAKER_00

It is. I mean, it's I mean, sifting through just five top albums has been hard. Sifting through one artist's, like, one album, because look, my favorite artists are all Geminis, Kendrick, Kanye, Michael, um, Jackson.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no, ladies and gentlemen, we've just gone into dumb territory. It is time for astrology relating to hip hop albums.

SPEAKER_00

But but it's it's not that they've got two sides. And as a Libra, I I'm not meaning to get all like Libra, you're a tampon, okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Libra flu.

SPEAKER_00

But anyway, um, yes, that album, that artist, phenomenal. Like just graduation is I guess Kanye's ego boost album, his first of many ego boost albums, and it has gone on to sell. I think that's Kanye West's best selling album of all time. Um, it has got so many hits. The sample game, again, as I said, like if you straight up taking a daft punk song and making it better, damn, stronger. It's just like damn, like just the instrumentals. If you strip back the lyrics, just the instrumentals on their own stand as their own, like sort of and it's just yeah, it just takes me to a place where by like music was getting a lot of money 2007 to about 2010 was the height of music videos, music production. Like Kanye had so much money to spend on that album, and for it to be one of the best grossing albums, like I could go through song for song, like you can't tell me nothing, like freaking um devil in a blue dress. All those songs have got so much meaning leading to the human ego, like how if you don't check yourself, someone else will check you, or someone else will take your life. Like, it's again another side of reality whereby you can get too big and you can be touched by those around you, and it just goes to show that yeah, you can tell me nothing, but they can take everything away from you.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely. We're still in 2012 for your next album. It's time to get very pretentious because we're going prog. We're getting proggy. Written and recorded entirely by the solo artist Kevin Parker, features the songs Elephant Feels Like We're Only Go Backwards and Mind Mischief. One album of the year for the Jay Awards. It is an Aussie classic, widely regarded as the best Australian album of the 2010s. We are talking about Lonarism from Tame in Parler.

SPEAKER_00

Damn. Damn, damn, damn. Like this album coincided with me moving to Australia. Um, it still has me in a chalk hold. Uh I mean, psychedelic, rock, funk, all in one album.

SPEAKER_02

Like just Did you like the Wiggles cover of Elephant?

SPEAKER_00

No, no, good, no, that that was an abomination. Like an abomination. Like, but if you listen to the lyrics, like he doesn't look like an elephant, he doesn't like to look back, so he took off his rear view mirror, and it's like, damn, fuck. You know, or just how when the psychedelic funk comes in, like I just get lost in the music. Like, that just takes me to a place where I am not on earth, I am levitating, and my body is just contorting itself to the beat.

SPEAKER_02

Like this album didn't really cross my path because I I wasn't a fan of Triple J in this era. I did still buy like the Triple J Hottest 100 albums, but for the the cultural phenomenon that Tame in Parla had around the world, like at the time I was a huge fan of Queens of the Stone Age. They changed their entire sound because of Tame in Parla. The fucking I'm pretty sure Kevin like recorded their album like a Sat by the Ocean.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely phenomenal pictures.

SPEAKER_02

It was insane that a band like Queens of the Stone Age for me that had such an unique sound to hear another album go, this is what we want to do. But we're gonna change what we're doing here.

SPEAKER_00

It hadn't been done so well in a long time. Like Pink Floyd is a reference point for a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But for me, like Kevin and Tame Impala.

SPEAKER_02

And it's not necessarily the the guitar-driven, like psychedelic, so it's not like King is wizard lizard, fucking whatever they're called.

SPEAKER_00

But it's just you get like I don't know how to describe it, but whenever I listen to a Tame Impala song and I'm doing a routine at the moment that I hope to perform soon, it's sort of like something else takes over me. Like it's I'm in a different dimension. It it's I don't know how to describe it.

SPEAKER_02

So has the like obviously it's a big online trend, but has the song Dracula resonated for you? Because it's sounds like Stewie Griffin to for Family Government.

SPEAKER_00

I hate when things are peeking, like I ignore everything. I like the dip cuts. Yeah. So off that album, I'm listening to the dipper cuts. Everyone is like, oh, Dracula, da-da-da! Which is fine. Like, I love I love that that sound. Yeah, but for me, I'm looking for the deeper cuts because I hate just going with a bandwagon and what everyone else is hyping up.

SPEAKER_02

Fucking the most jazz fan thing I've ever heard said in a sentence. I like the deep cuts as you push your glasses back up your nose.

SPEAKER_00

Where are my glasses? But yeah, I I mean, look, I have loved Kevin for a long time. So I'm glad Dracula is a commercial success for him.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But for me, it's just getting lost into those deep riffs that you're just like.

SPEAKER_02

I found it doesn't matter who you are musically or as an artist. I think once you get put in that category of game changer, yeah, you then are put in the smallest box of just becoming formula. And to me, Dracula is just formula of what he used to do.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, look, get your coins, everyone get your coins, but still be authentic to yourself.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, AI, write a tame in paler song. Here's Dracula. Kick a child and write a tame in parla song.

SPEAKER_00

But I love tame impala, like all the iterations on every album, like there is always a signature sound that you are just like, damn. And one group that I'm really sad have crossed over and gone US is Rufus the Soul. Because not to the same effect, but I used damn. But now they get booked for Hamptons parties and all that stuff. And for that crowd, you have to cater for them. It's no longer about the people, it's no longer about Australia. Like Australia is a far away concept. But yeah, I love Kevin that when it's creating, most of the time he's in WA.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Let's go back to 1959. Damn. A year that we also remember very fondly. This is the best-selling jazz album of all time. That's no smaller metric because four jazz albums are released every four seconds at all times. Recorded in just two sessions, featuring jazz legends, including John Coltrane, Bill Evans, it helped popularize modern jazz or model jazz. It is kind of blue for Miles Davis. You've already you've already given him his flowers, but why is this album the one?

SPEAKER_00

All the flowers. Look, 1959 for jazz was a monumental year because that's the same year as David Bubeck's uh Take Five. Uh, but Miles he hated to be classified as a jazz artist.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

He, I guess, in a way, he grew up playing with a lot of white jazz artists who were allowed then to perform and make money.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But as a black artist, you had to sort of play in the dive bars or be right at the back so the audience wouldn't be offended by you.

SPEAKER_02

It's you know, it's it's New York dolls still everything that Chuck Berry did because they're white guys.

SPEAKER_00

It's Adelaide dolls still in 2026.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But like that resentment, he when he made this album was like, I will give you a jazz album, but never fucking classify me as a jazz artist ever again, because I'm bigger than that. He always thought that jazz was sort of confined to the black artists, it wasn't held as highbrow, and therefore he did not love that sort of connotation.

SPEAKER_02

But for such a great album to be recorded in two takes with no written music, like just and the session musicians were giving no instruction, which is fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Just play, play what you feel.

SPEAKER_02

Jazz sounds like a panic attack to me, but other than that.

SPEAKER_00

But this album is like if you listen to it, it's not like Scat where it's like everything is happening all the time. It is just so tight that it's just like, what the hell? Like, this was free form, Jimmy Coltrane, Hebby Hancock, freaking Miles Davis, just playing, just to put something on paper in two takes. In 2026, we could never ever like flamenco blues like that song. Like every time I hear it, my heart stops, and it's just like these people were freestyling. This is the peak of freestyling. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, every time, like, because obviously I'm not a fan of jazz and I like to yuck other people's yams, but I love the reference in the film um Talladega Nights.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Where um Sasha Barron Cohen's character puts jazz on in the uh thing. He's like, who the fuck put this on? And everyone freaks out, and he's like, uh, why is it on the jukebox? Yeah. We use it to profile people.

SPEAKER_00

We used to profile who whoever plays. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why Miles really hated it because he thought what he did was classical music, RB, rock. Yeah. And if you listen to his descrip discography, like since then till when he died, like, yeah, he fucking goes through the motions.

SPEAKER_02

I can see how it would be so fucking frustrating to set out to be creating something. Or not even set out to create, to create something, and just have it mislabelled outside of your out of your hands.

SPEAKER_00

Out of your control, yeah. Someone else has that control.

SPEAKER_02

Great heavy metal album. You're like, it's not fucking metal, shut up.

SPEAKER_00

Like, literally, but the two takes part is the bit that that gets me. Like, no artists living today, I think, could ever, ever, with a session of live musicians, capture that.

SPEAKER_02

2006, it's a very good year. Yeah, I moved to Adelaide. We're talking about a follow-up album to a huge debut. Uh, we're talking about the killers. It is Sam's Town, named after the casino in Las Vegas, where they're from, following, like I said, the hugely the monster hit that was Hot Fuzz. Features songs When We Were Young, Read My Mind, and Bones, which to me, if you don't hear Bones and see the ghost of Roy Orbson, then I don't think you're listening correctly. Strongly influences by classic American heartland rock. This is Sam's Town. Tell me all about it.

SPEAKER_00

Damn. The beginning. Like, didn't you?

SPEAKER_02

Did Sam's uh did Hot Fuss resonate with you, or it was always this was it was alright, but it was more commercial, like obviously Mr.

SPEAKER_00

Bright Side. I mean somebody told me, yeah. Anyone off our pedigree knows when it was closing time or you know, you walk in. It was one of those, but Sam's Town came out when I was 17.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

When you were young is my absolute favorite song from that album. Um, literally, the music video was released at midnight on the eve of my 18th birthday.

SPEAKER_02

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00

So it's just got the again poignant moment. Yeah. And for their story, they were uh Bell Hops at a Vegas hotel and decided to form a band. And just hearing about small town America at that time in my life was sort of like damn. Like, you know, born on the 4th of July, we put on like red, white, and blue on his cake, and just listening to like life ordinary American life at that stage in time, obviously before the economic re recession that that happened after that. But it bones again, like you know, can you feel your bones, you know, underneath your skin? It's sort of like we all have skeletons, fucking great music. But how often do we think about our us just being a skeleton? Can you feel my bones on your bones? Type type of scenario, like them filming a music video in the middle of Tokyo at a at a crossroads. Like it's it was just at a time where I was leaving high school going to uni, transformative, like I was an adult. Yeah, it it it just really, really, really, really from start to finish. I love that album.

SPEAKER_02

Um, and I think I'd put a a little because yeah, choosing five albums that I was gonna say, I like your mentality, and I appreciated the forthcomingness in which you went, okay, I'll choose five albums, and by five albums, I mean six. But if I put a slash, then it's kind of the onus' back on me, whether I pick one or the other, or we do both as one choice, and that's what we're doing, because we are talking about the first cassette tape you ever bought from 2000, U2's beautiful.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, look, I wasn't sure about the Kanye inclusion, and there's so many albums I could have put in. Um, like Talking Heads. Yes, freaking talking heads. Oh, damn.

SPEAKER_02

Um, have you ever seen the video of him singing with Seaha?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

It's fucked.

SPEAKER_00

It's I but it's that sort of absurdity that is just so cool that you think, damn, once in a lifetime is my favorite talking heads. I I know that wasn't part of the the selection.

SPEAKER_02

What's the one with the pan flute like real? I can't think of the name of the song. There's a talking head song, and it's just it sounds like hold music on a full side.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, we should have a rage, a rage music video episode. Absolutely. As I invite myself to a fifth episode.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna say but yeah, I mean catch next week the golden damage show.

SPEAKER_00

The golden damage show. We we we love that. We love that. But look, I I I'm an eclectic person, that's also my favorite word. Um, but yeah, going back to YouTube beautiful.

SPEAKER_02

And eclectic is where you have fits every now and then.

SPEAKER_00

No, that's epilectic.

SPEAKER_02

I know.

SPEAKER_00

But YouTube Beautiful Day, again, beautiful day as the song is my favorite song from that album. I was I just turned 13 when I bought that album a few years later. Um but yeah, it's just touches me. The heart is a blur, like filming a music video on a tarmac with fucking big planes taking up over you, like the timing, the sequence.

SPEAKER_02

I'm sorry, but if Bono's not singing about Batman, he can fuck off.

SPEAKER_00

Mate, you have to listen to you too. Like, you know, you've got to get yourself together, you've been caught in a moment. Like it was just like, damn. Like I don't know how to explain it, but all the albums I've picked, I guess, have sort of touched me at a very pivotal time in my life and have resonated with me at this age still, and are still things that I go back to. It's not sort of like a a passing fad. It's sort of like, damn, it stops me in my tracks each time I put it on.

SPEAKER_02

What happened to that U2 song they did with Green Day that then disappeared? I think it was for her, uh, wasn't it New Orleans?

SPEAKER_00

How the splits were working, as well as some cop copyright. I was gonna say disappeared. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It was huge, and then I don't think I've heard it.

SPEAKER_00

That's that's what happens usually. Yeah. Um yeah, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Lost in thought.

SPEAKER_00

I just get lost in the music. Now I'm just dancing in my brain.

SPEAKER_02

Beer ship beer champagne pog popcorn is catching up with you.

SPEAKER_00

Beer has not yet been consumed, but I'm in I'm in my champagne fully. Like I absolutely love music and I absolutely love dancing. And just to go back, like we mentioned flash dance. Um was it flash dance where they weren't allowed to dance? Uh Footloose. Footloose, sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry. With Who Shall Not Be Named, because it's on the cusp of um inappropriateness. Um but yeah, it was one of those growing up I was never allowed to dance or express myself. So my imagination, imagination, SpongeBob Croat, is where a lot of my memories live, and dancing particularly, and music is like I just get lost in it in my brain. So deal with it.

SPEAKER_02

Nice one. Believe it or not, that's your favourites. We've learned a lot about you. You're not just a crumpet ambassador.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just I'm not just all ass and titties.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, well, fucking, let's just stop recording that. This bullshit. No one wants to.

SPEAKER_00

It's a shame. This is a podcast, not a video cast.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I appreciate you not wearing any clothes at all for the whole episode. It's a good idea. We lied about we lied about the other thing. Dr. Golden Brown.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Where can people check out everything you have going on?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I am on Instagram occasionally. Um, the handle is golden brown with an E at the end. Um you can Google me if you know my government name.

SPEAKER_02

What is your address and how do we get into your home?

SPEAKER_00

Uh so my address is Nambo Nut.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you so much for joining us. I hope you hope you've had a fantastic time.

SPEAKER_00

I've had a ripper of a time.

SPEAKER_02

It's it's great to know that you know there's still some jazz wankers in the world.

SPEAKER_00

Hey, look, I've got more eclectic taste, but this was a desert island. If I were stuck with these five albums and five films, but it could have been six albums. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02

Slash doesn't make them one film.

SPEAKER_00

Hey, if you take a piss, it makes it one film.

SPEAKER_02

Well done. Well done. You know what? We're leaving it on that dad joke. Golden Brown, thank you very much. This is the David Damage Show.

SPEAKER_04

This is David Damage Show.