Episode 4 - Lachy Skywalker

This week on The Davey Damaged Show…. it’s nerd love overload as Dave is joined by Punch It Podcast co-host Lachy Skywalker for a full-throttle dive into life, nostalgia, and pure pop culture chaos. We’re talking Star Wars madness, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles love, and gritty underground hardcore rap that hits HARD.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:01

This program has been classified MA. It contains sexual references, occasional coarse language, and adult themes.

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Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to the Dangevin Damag!

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The Dangeving Damitsko! The Dangeving Damamish Go!

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This is the Daily Damage Go for another week. It is fantastic to be with you, and once again, I have a fantastic guest. This next guest, I met in a very special way. We met over a very romantic evening, a very important evening for both of us as adults. It was at Radical Rewind screening of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1990. We have the newest host of the Kessel Run based Punch It Podcast joining us this week. You may know him from social media because some of the content is fucking fantastic. We are joined by Lockie, aka Lockie Skywalker. Lockie, how are you?

SPEAKER_02 1:12

Very well, sir. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

How's that for an intro? You feeling it?

SPEAKER_02 1:16

I fucking loved it.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

How good. Because obviously I hadn't seen Ninja Turtles since I saw it as a kid. Well, I I lie. I've watched that movie like every four weeks for the last 30 years. Seeing it on the big screen, not only in a big screen, but in a packed out cinema, because I remember maybe 2017 they re-released um Terminator 2. Went to the cinema to see it, and there was like 10 people there. I was like, oh, this sucks.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

I think I I saw that at Norwood. Yeah. And I remember sitting next to a dude that got really specific into all the guns. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

I was like, one of those Thomas the Tank Engine type people, for lack of a better term.

SPEAKER_02 1:57

Bro, like I know they're cool guns, but like you're going way too specif specific for me.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

That's so funny because like I remember watching True Lies on the big screen and sitting near an like a uh an aeroplane person, if you will. He's like, oh the hover doesn't do that. I'm like, shut the fuck up. I'm like, just stop. Like you don't need to do a tech, a tech run sheet on the movie. Anyway, who is Lockie Skywalker?

SPEAKER_02 2:26

I'm uh just a dude in his late coming up to late 30s that is You're an elder millennial. Uh yes, I'm a millennial, I'm a father of two, uh, and I love pop culture and movies and music, and yeah, just tapes give me so much bloody joy.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Yeah, yeah. There is on the Venn diagram of both of us, it it's almost just a singular circle because you're a massive Star Wars guy. That's basically huge. You came across my algorithm because I at the time I think uh thanks to and as much as it would upset a lot of the uh the true fans, when Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett came back around, that was for me. Like I know it was very popcorn and stuff, so with Star Wars, I was absolutely obsessed up until about 1998. I was Star Wars was my whole life. Star Wars and WWF were my entire life. Then the prequels happened, and I didn't hate the prequels, but the thing that I didn't like was that Star Wars around that time felt like it became a bit of a punchline because before that everyone's like, Oh, Dave's a Star Wars nerd, don't care, like I'm proud, it's something you love, but it became one of those cultural things where it was like oh the prequels suck, and then I feel that the Star Wars fandom kind of turned in on itself. I always heard the adage, no one hates Star Wars as much as Star Wars fans.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

How did you find the journey of loving Star Wars? Because obviously you grew up with the original trilogy, yes, neither of us are old enough to have seen any of them at the time. No. Um, do you find that Return of the Jedi is your favorite?

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Oh hundred percent.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

Now, this always, as much as I can totally admit by every measurement that The Empire Strikes Back is a better film, because of our age, because we weren't there when it happened, there's just something about gravitating to I've found that everyone that missed the trilogy originally loves Return of the Jedi the most. The black outfit, the green lightsaber, the it's slave- or you can't say it anymore, but later. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

Screw you, Disney. She's a slave. And like I've that's probably one of my answers later in for the questions, but yeah, it had everything for me. Like it had so many different planets. You had the Sand Planet of Tatooine, you had Endor with the Redwood Forests, you know, like you had the resolution of this trilogy, like it was like it's a fucking masterpiece.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

The good guys won. Yeah. Because obviously, you know, famously, Empire Strikes Back, one of the biggest down endings of any film at the time. Perfect, like I love it now as an adult, but at the time, yeah, just returns just so satisfying. It ties everything up. It does I think it does everything that I don't think Star Wars has managed to do as successfully since. Um, so are you one of those people because obviously you did the original trilogy? How did you feel at the time with the prequel trilogy?

SPEAKER_02 5:30

I was I loved it. Yeah, I was ten when Phantom Menace came out, or I was nine turning ten. And I vividly remember going to see that movie, and I vividly remember being at school and someone saying that Darthmore gets chopped in half before I saw it. And I was like, you can't.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

Like it's so funny because the biggest I visually, because believe it or not, this is gonna surprise a lot of people listening, and yourself. I'm a fat guy, I hide it very well. Star Wars did a partnership with Pizza Hut and KFC. Oh, I remember this. And the two most visual things that I remember about before Phantom Menace came out were getting lots of Anakin in his fucking pod racing helmet, and we're getting so much of Darthmall. And I was all in. I was nothing looks cooler than Darthmall. I'm like, this guy is fucking cool, he's clearly gonna be the replacement Darth Vader. This is gonna be so fantastic, and then to fucking kill him in the first movie. Jewel of the Fates is the greatest bit of Star Wars music in the history of the world. What are your thoughts?

SPEAKER_02 6:37

Uh it's great, and they even made a video clip and it was on MTV, and it was number one, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

And even I was so obsessed with Star Wars at the time, I remember taping off channel V, um, Weird Al Yankovic's the start, the saga begins, and there's so many spoilers in that song. But I think from I remember around the time, I don't remember the actual specifics, but I'm pretty sure, much like when Terminator Salvation came out and they released toys that were massive spoilers, I'm pretty sure the soundtrack before Phantom Minutes came out, and it was like um Qui-Gon's Noble End. I think it was called like Jewel of the Fates, and then it's like the death of a hero, and then it's like Qui-Guan's funeral, like something to that degree.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

It was um, I'm pretty sure it's Qui-Gon's Noble End is the name of the song.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

And you're like, hang on a second. You're like, if this song's not about his cock, I'm gonna be very fucking upset about that. Oh man. Oh, it and like I said, I didn't hate the films at all. I thought Janga Fett was pretty fucking cool. General Grievous was such a sick character, and yeah, there was so much strong about it, and understandably, all the stuff that got bogged down with the Senate and all the all the other stuff. Like, I can see why people hate it, definitely see why people hate it. But there's enough there for a Star Wars fan, and it was at the time because I even remember being blown away, as you can see from the shelf with like 40 special edition trilogies on it. I loved the special edition trilogy because it was more, yeah. We had our whole lives up until 1997. We had three films, we had the Ewoks movies, if you want to count them, the Chris. They're so bad, they're so bloody bad. The droids cartoon, but we were absolutely starved for Star Wars. So when we got the special edition thing, it's like I didn't care. Watching Han Solo step on Jabba the Hutt's tail, I loved it.

SPEAKER_02 8:35

And he shrieks as well.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

It's like I I was all in on it because it was more of something I loved, and that that's exactly how I felt when the prequel trilogy came out. But when the when the fandom turned on itself, basically, I was like, this isn't for me. I watch Star Wars for fun, not for whatever this has become. And I found that they're still with the like the um what's the last Jedi trilogy called?

SPEAKER_02 9:00

Does that have a uh it's just this I think they call it a Skywalker saga?

SPEAKER_00 9:05

That's right, yeah. Even that, I took them for what they were. Tyler Ren was fucking cool. I do like from a fan of movies point of view, they're like, here is the Force Awakens. This is what it's gonna be. JJ's got this big plan for three movies, and then it felt like the day after it released, Disney's like, nope, fix this, fix this, fix this, don't do this, don't do this, don't do this, and then we get the big course correction.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

I think I don't know if it was Disney or it was Ryan Johnson who directed The Last Jedi, because he was openly talking about in interviews that he wanted to subvert everybody's expectations. Yeah, so when you had Ray hand the lightsaber to Luke, instead of being like, Oh sweet, where'd you get that? Like that's my lightsaber, he throws it over his shoulder. And like I defend like I loved going to see those movies in cinemas when they came out. You know, you're wrapped up in the fandom. I really struggle with The Last Jedi because I know what it did. It like in my head, I call it the movie that created the civil war between fandom. Yes, yeah. So there was a civil war going on around the prequel era. Yes, definitely. And then it sort of calmed itself down with the Clone Wars animated show.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

I think the world, yeah, Clone Wars did so much goodwill, everyone fell back in love with not just Anakin, but Ahsoka and obviously Obi-Wan. Then the the Skywalker saga came out, and it's like, alright, guys, everyone on the same page, we're all excited for new big budget Star Wars. And even I remember that movie opening, and we see Kylo Wren stop Blaster Fire with the fucking force, and I'm like this fucking rules, but then you get bogged down because it's like that movie was like where I honestly felt like the first movie was like, We're going somewhere special with this, we're going somewhere special with this, and then they were like, Oh, we got a bit scared about going somewhere special, so it's not a hundred percent. And for the fact that Carrie Fisher passed before the third film and they didn't make Leia, you know when um Laura Dern gets in that fucking spaceship and just hyper jumps it through.

SPEAKER_02 11:17

Yeah, it should have been Leia to do it.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

If it was Leia, perfect ending, she's got a hero's ending, instead they just yeah, they just whatever they did.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

And they could have done it because I think she died after principal photography had finished.

SPEAKER_04 11:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

And I think I was at one of her last conventions because I went and saw to the Star Wars celebration in London in 2016.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

Did you put your hand up and ask a question about Drop Dead Fred? Because that's what I would love to do.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

I didn't, I wish I could have asked her about the floor. Excuse me.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

Um when you're in the birds in Drop Dead Fred Um uh or Blues Brothers, could you tell us about that? And all the Star Wars fans like, fuck off.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

Yeah, it was funny though, because she brought up a whole bunch of people dressed up as Leia. There was like big dudes dressed in slave outfits and stuff. I was like, this is fucking great.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

Nice. Alright, let's find out now that we've done our little introductory Star Wars talk. Let's find out about Loki. Alright. If you had a MySpace profile, what would your profile song be?

SPEAKER_02 12:19

Uh I I reckon it would be Dracula by Tamin Parler at the moment. That song is just constantly in my head. It's on the radio. My daughter loves it, so it's constantly in my car every time I do school drop-offs.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

I am of the school that thinks it sounds like Stewie Griffin's That's great. Who would they cast to play you in a movie?

SPEAKER_02 12:40

Uh I think his name's Joseph Gilgan or Gilden. He was in a show on Netflix called Brassic. He's a British dude. Uh he's also in the Preacher TV show, British dude. Yeah. Yeah, he's just really weird dude. And I know I'm not British, but I feel like he could pull off an Aussie accent.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

I find it so funny now with the way they're cast modern movies, where it's like everyone in it that's English is from America. Everyone that's from America is English. All Australians, except for I just nothing tickles me more than like even with the boys and stuff, Mortal Kombat 2, Carl Urban being from like New Zealand, New Zealand, and Anthony Starr being from New Zealand. There's certain emotions, and even still to this day, Chris Hemsworth does it, Hugh Jackman does it, fucking Sam Worthington never hides his Aussie accent. I loved watching Clash of the Titans. He's like, Oh, I'm bursius. No, you're not. But um, yeah, there's just something about the Aussie accent, it can't be hidden. But I'm constantly finding it hilarious that I watch behind the scenes stuff like on the red carpet, and they interview a character, and it's like, this man has the strongest London accent, and I thought he was American, and then vice versa.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

That's like Idris Elba when he played String a Bell on the Wire.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

People thought he was from Baltimore because he got the inflections of that accent so well done, and then he would do interviews, and he's this British bloke with this thick British accent, and you're like, what the f- But then it's so funny with accents in movies, and I think I'm so like sensitive to Aussie ones, but it's always funny, like you know, even Rogue One, you got Ben Mendelssohn, he's like, You're gonna be a I'm a Star Wars, mate. Yeah, he's got this list, but he's also got the Aussie to him. He's like, Nah, I'm Kranic, I'm gonna build the Death Star. Yeah, mate. Yeah, I'm surprised he doesn't say mate.

SPEAKER_02 14:39

Yeah, like that would have been great.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Oh, grandmother darkened, mate. You're not taking my credit, mate. He's just yeah, accents. Alright. What would that film be rated?

SPEAKER_02 14:50

Uh I would say R. I had a pretty colourful childhood living in hotels and wow. Ooh. So yeah, we saw a lot and yeah, it was pretty wild.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

I like that you're you paint this picture of like a you know a midday movie thing, and you're like, oh, we lived in hotels because we reviewed five-star hotels like that guy in Dunstan checks in.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

No, great movie, by the way. No, we we grew up in Mitchum, my brother and my mum and dad, and they famously bad uh famously bad area. I was about to say we were the criminals. Yeah, like my brother and I, we were quite naughty. Hey, there's a shit there's a shit house on every great street, mate. The amount of eggs that got thrown at cars and stuff like that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:34

Good fun. Nowadays throwing eggs costs so much that it's they only do it in Mitchum now. Um did you have posters growing up on your wall?

SPEAKER_02 15:45

I did. I from my memory, I had a gladiator.

SPEAKER_00 15:49

Not just ones that said where the ice machine was in these tattoos.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

It was it was I would get them from Blockbuster and Video Easy, so I'd get movie posters and vividly remember having Gladiator above my bed. Yep. And then I had I think a Titanic poster and then a couple of Star Wars ones. I remember having the what was it? It was the special edition poster. No, no, no, not the special edition poster, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

It was the re-release of the original trilogy poster where it was done by that guy, Stu, the guy that just died last year that did all the original. Drew Struzen? Yeah, Drew Struzen. Was it that poster? Because that because they were from They were fucking so good.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

He was just a master, that dude. Like every good movie from the 80s, he did the poster, basically. Pretty much, yeah. But I reckon it was from I reckon it was from 2004. I had the like the DVD trilogy, yes, silver pitch.

SPEAKER_00 16:51

And it had the silhouette of Luke and Vader fighting with the lightsabers and down the bottom.

SPEAKER_02 16:56

Yeah, it was basically it was just every time they would release like new old movies on DVD, they'd always have a big poster of it. So I had one of Indiana Jones. Yeah, but yeah, it was great.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

I remember the first DVD I ever saw when they switched over. Um, I bought Nutty Professor on VHS because I remember the weekend, and if I could time travel, it would be to this weekend. The weekend that video easy broken hill did the switch over, and they sold every VHS they had for like five and ten dollars each. That's wild, and I just remember going, if I could time travel, it would be to that day. Yeah, but the first DVD I ever saw was the film Swordfish, and I saw Halleberry's tits on DVD quality. I was like, you know what, maybe there's something to this. There's something, and just that was the death of rewind. There was no longer having to rewind tapes. I used to do a thing because I was pathologically a shithead. Movies that had big twists, I'd get it up to that bit and stop it, put it in the thing and take it back just under the prevision someone put it in their breasts black.

SPEAKER_02 18:07

I still have my very first purchased DVD. What was that? The Mummy, 1999. Fuck yes. So we got that, I think maybe I don't know when it came out. It must have been like you can tell the case is old. Yeah. We got it in Noosa in maybe 2000 or 2001. Got it at Harvey Norman's and it would came in like a like protector case that you had to take to the counter, then they would like scan it to take it out of the case.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

Even to this day, like with DVD, even though it's you know, it feels like it's definitely in its um heyday now. But going in op shops now and finding the Simpsons series DVD, I remember with one of my paychecks from Big W back in the day, spending $119 on a series on DVD of The Simpsons, and now finding it for like 50 cents in a church op shop pretty much weekly just hurts my brain.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

The amount I used to keep a collection, I used to keep a handwritten book of every movie that I bought and how much I bought for it bought it for. So I'd go on like JB Hi-Fi's video uh easy DVD and I would count how like I would record all the ones. I had like three, four hundred DVDs.

SPEAKER_00 19:24

I too was a fucking loser as a kid.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

And I sold them all like five years ago and bought the greatest thing ever, which was the Imperial Shuttle from Kenner in 1982.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

Dude, that is the biggest thing I've ever seen. And it is so good. It is huge. You could sit in the cockpit and eat your lunch. Oh, absolutely. Nice one. Um, do you remember your first celebrity crushes? Uh like I said And why was it like the fat one from the Max Rebo band the with the flat tits? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:56

Yeah, uh well, she had six of them. Exactly. It's like it's quantity over quality. It's it's like the three-titter chicken, total recall.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

She's twice as she's by all measurements, she should be twice as hot as that one.

SPEAKER_02 20:08

Absolutely. Well, yeah, she's up there. She's one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

It's funny how much, even now re-watching um Total Recall, how much ups how upset I get when she gets killed.

SPEAKER_02 20:17

I'm just like, oh, those titties. Uh I reckon like for me it was like Carrie Fisher.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:25

You know, the obviously the slave outfit. I think any Star Wars male kid that was and Yeah, I mean, but it was like because obviously I'd seen movies when I was younger. Like I remember seeing The Toxic Avenger when I was really young, like let like five or six, because my parents would be working downstairs at the hotel. Me and my brother would be upstairs, and we're watching this movie because I think they thought it was the cartoon. Of course. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 20:53

So we're watching this hardcore R-rated movie with the tits everywhere and the violence where he I'm pretty sure good friend of the show Floppy had the exact same experience where he hired the Toxic Avenger expecting the Toxic Crusade.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

It's like and I tell my parents to this day, like, you know, it's still hands down one of my favourite movies. It's so trashy and so pulpy that like it's just phenomenal. But uh I'd say Carrie Fisher, uh Jessica Alba from Idle Hands, she had that little rob cut.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Oh mate, when she's in the when she's in the silk pajamas. Oh my god. This is pervert FM here on the D Game show. Yeah, fuck yeah, dude. I'm trying to I know exactly it's funny what a sense made. When she's tying his hands up.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

Oh no, he ties his hands up. And you know what?

SPEAKER_00 21:43

While we're on Idle Hands, the kiss makeup big titted girl in the car as well. Oh my god, yeah. And um when the hand goes up between them. Man, what a classic. We'll talk more about that for sure. If you're a wrestler, what would your theme music be? Uh I You're technically a wrestler though, so you do uh you do Brazilian jiu-jitsu stuff. Yes, that's correct. It's like wrestling, but also like liking men. Is that correct? Absolutely, but you get to strangle the fuck out of them. It's so funny because obviously I know you wouldn't know to look at me, but obviously sport's not in my oven of being a person. But I'm always so c self-conscious. I'm like, I because the guy I work with is actually quite successful at jujitsu, and I'm like, I sweat too much, and I'm too self-conscious about it to be able to wrestle someone because I'm like, they're gonna end up stinking of me.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

Like and I I unfortunately haven't done it for nearly 12 months because I had the birth of my son, so you know, having two kids, as you would know, is quite a handful, so like I had to put something on the back burner. Uh but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Because for those that don't know, bridge Brazilian jujitsu guys can get pregnant, so that's why you couldn't because you actually had to carry the full term at the end.

SPEAKER_02 22:56

I know, like, and you know, I just got too big to do it. The belly just got in the way. But I I did compete in a white belt in internal white belt competition and face- You know that you know that sounds like the white belts inside of your ass, yeah? Yeah.

unknown 23:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

As long as you know. I I got choked out unconscious in my third round. Oh dude.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

And it was me being stubborn. I've never been choked out, not something I want. But is it honestly that it seems like all the videos I watch where someone gets choked out, it's pretty much a time travel where you don't know what's happened.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

You don't know. So in my head, like I could have tapped out at any moment. I was in a a chokehold in like from my neck, and in my head, I'm going, I've just got to wait it out. I can get out of this, I'll just wriggle out of it, I'll wriggle out of it.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

You wait and see what I do next, and then you just start snoring.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

It was like I started feeling like a tingly sensation and start, and then I don't remember, and then I remember like rolling on the floor and people just being like, Oi, oi, you awake? You awake? And my mate's like, dude, I've never lost a match in that ghee you're wearing, which is the gear. You've given it bad, you've given a bad gym. I got choked out. I was like, fuck, dude, I'm so sorry. He's like, dude, like I you gotta go to training on Monday because everyone's gonna be like, that's the nutcase that didn't tap out.

SPEAKER_00 24:19

Yeah, oh nice, yeah, because it's a point of pride, I guess. But like he's also standing there with a small metal bin to burn that gi in. He's like, You've ruined it, we've got to get rid of it.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

And yeah, bless his heart, he's a really good dude, and he's he's crossed onto his purple belt, which is I think there's brown and then black. So yeah, he loves it.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

What would your wrestling entrance be?

SPEAKER_02 24:40

It would be MOP's How About Some Hardcore, which is like early 90s hardcore hip-hop. Yeah. Uh it's just like it's just raw. Yeah. It's like, yeah, it's the roar of song, and you could just be like you just pump your fist. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

First concert you ever went to?

SPEAKER_02 25:00

Uh, this was a trick question because I did call my mum an asker, and my earliest memory wouldn't be actually going into a concert, but in 1996 we sat outside the Michael Jackson concert.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

Oh fuck man. I wish because obviously living in the art bank at the time, not an option, a guy at work sneak snuck in and went to it, and that is probably that is one artist that I do hold in, you know, regardless of all the other shit. Someone I hide in such hold in such high esteem. Moonwalker is one of my all-time favourite films as a kid.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

I was telling my fiance about that. I was like, Did you ever see Moonwalker? And she was like, No, what's that? And I was like, You haven't lived.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

I begged my parents for it on Sega Master System just because of the chip tune soundtrack of like every one of his hits. But dude, that would have been fucking so that would have been so exciting.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

Because we just sat on the hill, because obviously it sold out instantly. Yeah. So my mum and dad were like, We're gonna go see Michael Jackson, but we're not gonna go see him, we're gonna listen to him on the hill. And we're like, fuck yeah, this is gonna be sweet.

SPEAKER_00 26:07

That is fuck that is I'm jealous of that one. Best concert you've ever been to.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

Uh what if I like I went and saw MM in London in 2018, which was pretty cool. It was like 80 plus thousand people.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

How would it not be cool? It's Eminem.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

And like we were so far back, but the sound was so great, and he brought out 50 Cent Ed Sheeran, he had Royster 5-9 open up for him, and then he had like I can't they were called Prophets of Rage, so it was half a rage machine.

SPEAKER_00 26:42

That was that was the proto audio slave, yes, but it was also Cypress Hill, yes. So uh and I think Serge from System of Down had something to do with him as well.

SPEAKER_02 26:52

I'm not too sure, but I it was great because it was definitely B Real from Cypress, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:58

It was B Real and then and Tom Morello. Tom Morello, the bass player and the drummer from Rage, and I feel like there's someone we're missing, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:06

Which was great because they were playing both their hits, but it was B Real singing like rage songs, and then yeah, it was great.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

That's all do you know the first format that you owned music in?

SPEAKER_02 27:22

Yes, it was a cassette. Cassette, right? Do you remember what it was? Yes, it was it was Ninja Turtles 3.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

Fuck yeah, sounded like the first movie that broke my heart.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

I still love that movie.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

I do still love it because I'll always love anything turtle, but that's the first time I went to a movie and went, ha, this is not right. Yeah, I'm like, sometimes movies aren't great.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

That movie holds a special place in my heart because I still vividly remember going to the region arcade cinema and seeing that and coming out at night time, and just every time I see the scene when they're down by the river, it's like I'm transported back to that cinema.

SPEAKER_00 28:05

Oh, dude, that's sick. I remember I reckon it was Free Willy. My timeline might be wrong. We went to the cinema, and this was back in the day, pre-internet. I didn't really read magazines and stuff. I didn't know Turtles 3 was coming. So we went to see Free Willy, and it's funny because I saw Free Willy under the provision that I don't know if you remember the poster of Free Willy, but it's the kid holding his hand up with Willy going my brain, and I can still see it when I look at the poster. I genuinely thought that was a movie about a kid fighting a whale and he's doing the best uppercut ever. If you next time you see the poster free Willy, imagine that he's uppercutting that fucking thing. Why can't somebody do this with AI? Exactly. This is what AI is for wasting your time, and you know, then it's not bad. It's when you try and sell it, it's bad. But no, um Saw the poster for three, which was the yellow poster with the circle. Uh no, the turtles were just floating in the air in their um like feudal Japan costumes, whatever, like the that makes it like the feudal Japan. And I was like, holy fuck, there's another Turtles movie coming. Because that was around the time wherever I'm stuck.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Was that the one where they're like it's from the scene when they're coming down the guard like the chute? Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

So they they're in mid-air, yeah, but in their costumes. And I was like, there's a third one. And this was when I was I stuck with things a lot longer than everyone else. So then I was like, turtles suck now. I'm like, look, there's a third one. It only sucked when they brought a chicken.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

It's like I love that show, girlfriend.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

You said the same thing about porno. This is great, and then the girls showed up. Yeah. I do have a funny porno story to talk about though. Well, let's hear it.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

Well, I was over at my um brother's friend's house and they found Courtney Cox's bisexual adventures on VHS. So we were like, all right, let's take it to our mate's house. And Courtney Cox. Uh, was it Courtney Cox or Courtney Love? Courtney Love's bisexual adventures.

SPEAKER_00 30:09

I got really excited.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

No, it's it's Courtney Love's Bisexual Adventures. So we were like, sweet, we got a porner, we'll take it to my other brother's mate's house, pop it in. It's just a dude getting banged, and then we fast forward, like where you can still see it fast forwarding, and it was like an hour of dudes just getting banged, and we were like, Where's Courtney Love? Where's Courtney Love? It's just dudes banging. And my mate took it out of his VHS player and smashed it with a baseball bat.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

Oh man, it was homophobic hour mate. That 90s homophobia, and it it's even now, like, because occasionally I'll switch over from like the fucking 10 different streaming services we got running at once, and free to wear will be on, and something like Becca or Cheers or something, and someone will be like, oh, this guy's gay, and then everyone's like, ugh, and they like lean away from it and stuff, and I'm like, this was the norm at the time, it was a different time, and it was definitely wrong, but it was a thing.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

But you think about movies like Ace Ventura, the ending of that movie is everybody vomiting because there's a transgender woman, and you're like, what the fuck is going on?

SPEAKER_00 31:14

I only recently found out, I'm not sure who posted it, but the photo of Ironhorn, no, sorry, Ray Finkel, yeah, is also Sean Young with a mustache and a wig on. Like they didn't like the girl, yes, the the chief um Ironhorn, she is literally Sean Young, the actress, dressed up as Ray Finkel for that photo they keep showing. It's phenomenal, isn't it? And we all missed it. We bought it I know, I know. Um let's see what else. Um I've scrolled all the way to the top top, so we're doing really good. Um, what is your death row last meal? Uh just give me a good pub chicken palmy. Great answer. I panic and have that anyway. So I'd be like, I want the chair, and I would eat the electric chair, and then I wouldn't get put to death.

SPEAKER_02 32:05

Because I I asked my fiance, I said, Oh, what would yours be? And she goes, Oh, my mum's roast. I was like, Well, your mum's gonna bring your roast to the to the death chamber. She's like, She better it's my last meal. Favourite store growing up? Uh Blockbuster. Nice one. I was I had friends growing up.

SPEAKER_00 32:26

Were you a bit of a blockbuster slut or did you have your local that was I had locals around.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

There was a bunch in Mitcham that I would frequent as well. Yeah. And then there was like uh a movie land, I think, and I never went back because I never returned a video. So I was like, I gotta go back to I gotta go find a different one. Yeah. But yeah, it was Blockbuster. I would go every Friday and rent movies, and you know, I remember they could count how many movies you saw, and it was in the thousands.

SPEAKER_00 32:56

That's rad. Oh fuck like um friend of the show, Ben Sachs, came on recently and he brought all the he's kept every cinema ticket from when he was younger.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

Awesome.

SPEAKER_00 33:05

I wish I could go back and not think to have done that.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

I've been doing it for a couple of years, but I was doing it when I was younger, like in my early like late teens, early two three twenties, and then I stopped, and then for the last couple of years, I think being a dad, like going to movies up in Mount Barker, because it's only like a 10-minute drive from my house, cheap Tuesdays, you know, it's just so accessible. Yeah, it lessened it, and you're just like I've I've seen Mandalorian and Grogu four times, and it came out last Thursday.

SPEAKER_00 33:37

Yeah, you've done what what popcorn buckets did you get? All of them.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

I got the Adat, which I bought online, and I got the Grogu and the Pram. Nice.

SPEAKER_00 33:48

Right here, next question. One day you stumble into a little corner shop, it's out of time, it has all the old posters, everything you can remember. Stocked with everything you've ever seen. You're allowed to get one ice cream, one drink, and one snack. What are you getting?

SPEAKER_02 34:03

I go Blue Pepsi. Fuck yeah. Because I remember Code Blue. I know I know they were mostly at KFC. Yeah, that's where I remember it from.

SPEAKER_00 34:11

That's the only place I've ever had it.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

But great. Uh I go Fantails just because you can't buy them anymore. Of course. It's the same with Starburst. I can't believe you can't get free. I didn't know they were gone. Yeah, you can't get them anymore. You can get them in the English or like the international section.

SPEAKER_00 34:27

But not the just the classic.

SPEAKER_02 34:28

Yeah, they don't make them in Australia anymore. And ice cream, you posted it and it sparked my memory. It was like uh chocolate ice cream with and it looked like a wave.

SPEAKER_00 34:41

Oh, that's the warp.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

Yes. Uh you just ignited a memory I had completely forgotten about.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

Yeah. And I was like, I used to fucking eat those all the time. Uh down in Semaphore at the not the Copenhagen ice cream, but straight across there's Scaras, which is the Greek street food place. They're also a Golden North stockers. They do a milkshake where they get two giant twin bars and blend them and then serve them as a milkshake.

SPEAKER_03 35:11

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

It's the closest thing you'll find to the taste in my brain of what a warp was back in the day. They're so good.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

I'm gonna have to try that next time I come down to semaphore because I love that. Uh is it La La Vintage? Yes, yeah. Love that place. And the cinema too.

SPEAKER_00 35:28

Like one day I will leave there with the um plucker duck skill tester. One day. Alright, did you grow up with any video game consoles? And what were the standout games?

SPEAKER_02 35:39

My first console I never I didn't actually own, but living in the Torrens Arms, we had Sega and so we had a four-console thing in the restaurant, so there was two Sega's and two SNES. Yep. So and then like I have a SNES history because You know in Broken Hill, we called them SNES.

SPEAKER_00 36:01

SNES. That's what they were called.

SPEAKER_01 36:03

That's still pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 36:05

I wonder if it's regional though. It's like when you hear um because even I never called it an NES, it was always a NES.

SPEAKER_02 36:12

But I think I just called it a Nintendo growing up. Yeah. And then when the 64 came out, I was like, well, that's the Nintendo series.

SPEAKER_00 36:17

Well, my dad still would call a PlayStation 5 a Nintendo, like everything's a Nintendo.

SPEAKER_02 36:23

Yeah, I I remember like so in '96, I fell out of a tree and snapped my femur. Yeah, right. So I was in hospital in the Women's and Children's for like three months. Uh and they had this is because that's where the tree was, and no one found you. It was it was cool because they had a list of a hundred movies you could watch. Fuck yes, and then they had SNES and they had Super Nintendo. So I vividly remember playing Bubsy all the time.

SPEAKER_00 36:54

That is my favorite game, and still to this day I play it quite often. I'm still sure Amazing are gonna call me up to play Bubsy on TV one day. It'll happen. I would love Amazing to come back for 40-year-olds, so not kids anymore. It's just three 40-year-olds working together. What was Amazing? I'd like to you had to run through the maze and get find either keys or letters. Yes, and there was a whole green team or the red team? The red team and yellow teams as well and blue. They I think it was yellow and green mostly though. Anyway, you they also had you either had to play a round of Nat attack and whoever got the highest points won, or a game of Bubsy and whoever got the most um yarn balls got the thing.

SPEAKER_02 37:40

Phenomenal.

SPEAKER_00 37:41

Nah, good fucking good call, dude.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

But I think the first console I had like that was officially ours in our home was a 64. Nice. And we had golden eye as like standard. I think everyone in the household had that who had a 64.

SPEAKER_00 37:56

They sent it out in the mail if you had a 64.

SPEAKER_02 37:59

It's like here, you need this game. It's great. The graphics, they'll never get better.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

I think a lot of people I knew also had Cruising USA because it was the only game that was $20.

SPEAKER_02 38:09

I don't think I ever had that. We had Pokemon Snap.

SPEAKER_00 38:12

Nice one. I never got into Pokemon, so I spent I reckon a good 12 months just rotating between playing multiplayer Golden Eye with my friends and playing fucking Shadows of the Empire.

SPEAKER_02 38:26

Dope. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 38:29

Right. In your phone right now, how many unread messages, texts, and emails do you have? I check my emails probably once a month.

SPEAKER_02 38:41

So it's all spam other than other than my paycheck.

SPEAKER_00 38:46

I'm still getting like emails from a t-shirt I bought from a website that was like fucking 15 years ago.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

Ah yeah, I I still get uh emails from suicide girls saying, we want you back.

SPEAKER_00 38:58

And I was like, I'm no. I still get like I used to pirate movies on Demonoid. Nice, and I still get like whatever it's now become, like because it's not even the same thing that it used to be. I will still get the occasion that you have like make sure you head on over to whatever it's called now. I'm like, no.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

But I I would hate to open up my emails right now because it would be shockingly like it'd be over a thousand.

SPEAKER_00 39:21

It'd be like the payment uh here's this week's OnlyFans payment for you. I was like, no, not again. Best Christmas gift or birthday gift you ever received.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

Can I do both? Yep. Christmas 95 was the like the joy of Star Wars because we woke up early, didn't tell our parents, and we opened the Christmas presents, like a real dick move. Perfect. But we got the Millennium, like collectively, my brother and I, we got the Millennium Falcon. The Power of the Force, yeah, X Wing, TIE Fighter, and then a bunch of characters.

SPEAKER_00 39:57

I had the noise-making TIE Fighter, it would have been the same Christmas.

SPEAKER_02 40:00

It was like I've I've bought them back, and I I hate how they're now vintage, yeah. So they cost so much more. You go to a toy fair and paid $10 for a figure, and now you're paying $40.50, and it's like, can you not? This is making me feel really old. My birthday from 1994, I got the dragonzord set. Fuck yes. And I was showing you the photos because I I went to my parents' house and I had the I re always remember having the green Power Ranger, and I said to my mum and dad, Did you ever buy this with a with something else? And they go, No, we reckon we just got the got the toy. So I'm going through these photos, and I was like, Holy fuck, I knew it!

SPEAKER_00 40:40

I knew I had it. That is sick. No, it is crazy. Like the amount of times like um last year when mum passed, we went through every photo in a house. And because you know, as you know, the 1990s it's just taking photos of your toys photo after photo after photo, the amount of photos where it's like, oh, you know, there's my nan that passed away years ago, and I'm like, not looking at Nat, I'm like, what's that toy in the back? And I'm like, like joining us in it. I'm like, I had, and judging by the photos, I had it for a good 20 years by the looks of it. I had that truck that had like a rail on the roof of it, it would drive along, and as soon as the bumper hit something, it would fold down a ramp and drive over obstacles itself. And I was like, holy you know when just yeah, you totally forgot you owned something, and the second you see it, you vividly remember every moment with it.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

Last year's Toy Fair, yeah, I don't know if you ever collected War Planets, they were like little play sets like that came in circle balls, and you'd open them up and they'd have aliens and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 41:46

Yeah, right. Almost like a Mighty Max type setup.

SPEAKER_02 41:49

Yeah, I'll I'll send you photos when I go home, but I went to the toy fair, completely forgot about it, and I was like, holy shit, what are these fucking things? I thought I reckon I had one of these. Went home, went on eBay and Google, found the one I had from a child and bought it straight away that day. I was like, I remember playing with this, and now I play it with my daughter.

SPEAKER_00 42:10

That is fuck it. I love nothing's cooler than those memories because you're like, you don't know they're there. So it's a little bit of dopamine you didn't know that was in the world that you suddenly found.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

There's a Christmas from probably '93 or '94 where my brother and I I think I'm watching him open the killing joke. Fuck. That's brutal. And I still own that exact copy today.

SPEAKER_00 42:37

So you you guys were real big comic book hunts? Not so much comic books, but we love Batman and you know, I think my parents I love the idea that you're obsessed with 89 Batman, and then you read the killing joke, thinking like, what is he up to this week?

SPEAKER_02 42:52

I was so shocked at like Barbara Gordon getting shot in the stomach and the acid, like there's acid being sprayed on like weird shit, and I was just like, I'm what reading this as a kid going, This is the most fucking greatest thing ever. Yeah. So yeah, and and I went through and I found photos from Christmas where we're opening Power Rangers. I was just like, This is the gold I've been looking for.

SPEAKER_00 43:19

Yeah, that's insane. Um, alright. What's the film that you loved growing up just because you had taped it off TV or owned it on DVD? Doesn't have to be good. The the shitter the better, in fact.

SPEAKER_02 43:30

No, I I still to this day love the 1995 uh Star Wars trilogy box set. Like I brought it here, like one uh Return of the Jedi here today. Yep There's something about opening that case up and knowing I had that as a kid and seeing all the CDs.

SPEAKER_00 43:51

Is it the widescreen version?

SPEAKER_02 43:52

Uh I've got both.

SPEAKER_00 43:54

I remember because I think it's the inside of one of them and it's got all the ads, but I'd never seen. Like I think it was Rogue Squadron or whatever the PC game was. And then like there's one where there's like a ATST on the cover. And this was all Star Wars media I didn't know existed. Yeah. It was much like I used to love going in the used bookstore in Broken Hill. And they had all the stand expanded universe books. And so it's like, oh look, there's there's old Han Solo and like his three kids. And like it was just this universe of Star Wars I didn't know existed because, like I said, pre-internet, because I'm an old kind.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

But it's like when you would open Hasbro toys, they would have the little slimy booklet of all the toys. And I've still got a couple of those booklets from rebuying Power of the Force stuff. And I'm going, oh my god, there's Batman stuff, there's Star Wars stuff. It's so good.

SPEAKER_00 44:48

Alrighty. You uh well, speaking of Batman, Batman got his name from a fear of bats. Using the same logic, what would your hero be?

SPEAKER_02 44:59

Uh Button Man.

SPEAKER_00 45:01

Sorry?

SPEAKER_02 45:02

Button Man. I am Are you saying button? Yeah, like buttons. Like on shirts. You're scared of buttons? I'm not scared, but like I have a phobia of them. I don't like wearing stuff with buttons on it. What? It's fucking like you remember like I know it's not an old, old movie, but Coraline with the eyes. Like I fucking love that movie.

SPEAKER_00 45:22

And I don't know if it was like There's that old bird with the massive jugs, and I don't know what I shouldn't like it, but I do.

SPEAKER_02 45:29

I don't know for what it is. Maybe it was like a sensory issue that like I just freaked out, and like even my parents would be like, What the fuck's wrong with you? I was like, I don't know, it's fucking weird.

SPEAKER_00 45:41

It's so funny when when you've got sensory issues, it's funny that because it's so normalized to you. It's not until someone that's never known it, like my reaction just then with buttons. It's so funny. For me, I've got two. I will only eat with the tiny teaspoon. No, I won't use the big I love the big spoon. I'll be I'll be eating cereal. Well, actually, I I have grown up a bit to use a big spoon for wheat bigs, but eating fruit loops with a fucking little like That's wild. I know that takes so long to eat a ball. My wife's reaction was like, what is wrong with you? Nothing, it's normal. That and if you get the cheaper ice cream, which I do, and the the stick is cheap, wooden stick, and it touches the inside of your mouth and it's kind of buried. Yeah, that makes me want to die. Like that feeling, and I have sensory even right now, I'm so uncomfortable talking about it. It is such a fucking horrible feeling, but then you do it in front of someone that's never even contemplated. And it's like, what is wrong with that? My daughter picked up on it, and now she doesn't like buttons because I don't like buttons, and I'm like, yeah, girl. You're like, I fucking hate the white stripes, that hardest button-to-button song. Like, it's just it's trauma. Alrighty. Uh you have been given the power to choose one film and one song for the entire world to hear. What are we listening to and what are we watching?

SPEAKER_02 47:08

Uh, I'm gonna say Seal's Kiss from a Rose.

SPEAKER_00 47:13

Is it Courtney Love's uh bisexual adventures?

SPEAKER_02 47:17

Well, if you want to have nightmares for the rest of your life.

SPEAKER_00 47:20

Kiss from a Rose, by the way, greatest song ever to do with the movie.

SPEAKER_02 47:22

I had no idea that some of the references were to cocaine. Yeah, right. So when he's when he's six.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

That did, you know, when it snows.

SPEAKER_02 47:29

Yeah, and his eyes become wider or larger. Ah, really. Because I only recently it's only in the last couple of weeks, I was like, it's a stretch, but I can see how it can be connected. Uh movies, I'll have to look it up because I did write something down.

SPEAKER_00 47:44

Is it Surf Ninjas?

SPEAKER_02 47:46

Oh, what did I say, Tommy Boy? Fuck yeah. I there were so many movies that I was like, fuck, I could have chosen those for my favourites. But yeah, I think Tommy Boy and just Chris Farley, he was one of the greatest.

SPEAKER_00 48:02

I cannot be trusted around small jackets just because a fat guy and a little coat. Yeah, I do it every chance I get. Farley was a hero, and not just because I'm a fat guy. Rightyo. Um, let's talk all about now that we've gone for seven years, let's talk all about why you're here. I got you to choose five of your favourite movies, five of your favourite albums, and we're gonna start back in the year 2004, directed by Edgar Wright, starring Simon Pegg, Nick Frost, the first of the Cornet trilogy inspired by Dawn of the Dead. We are talking about Sean of the Dead, the greatest zombie film of all time.

SPEAKER_02 48:36

I it's I have a very special place for this movie in my heart. I saw it at Marion opening weekend, yeah, and it changed my life. Like still to this day, I quote it every like pretty much every day with my partner. Yeah, you know, we're coming to get you, Barbara. You know, uh yeah, it's just and I wanted to go to all the locations when I went to England, but we didn't get around to it. We did Star Wars locations.

SPEAKER_00 49:05

I still, wherever we go, we'll say, even to my children, which I shouldn't have done. Any can I get any new concept drink? It's it's like, but the way it was directed, written, acted, the foreshadowing. It is a masterclass in filmmaking in every sense. It's not just your light-hearted, fun film, which it definitely is, and it's totally entertaining, but you look at things like my favorite thing about it is probably day one. We do the establishing shot of Sean waking up, going down to the shop and getting a cornetto and a can of um dike. The world falls to pieces overnight, and the zombie apocalypse happens. They mirror that shot, it's a but after the apocalypse has happened, and because he's so in his own world, he doesn't notice fucking perfect.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

He recreated that scene.

SPEAKER_00 49:56

Just I only saw that yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 49:58

Yeah, well, he did one like maybe last year or the year before in the exact location from the house to the store.

SPEAKER_00 50:04

Because I saw they also did like a couple years ago because obviously they use the word gay. They did the updated scene where they're like, all right, so people stop telling us like shouldn't say gay. Here it is, and they do it again because when I say gay, I don't mean insulting like gay people. What I actually mean is you know, it's just a colloquial term. Yeah, and they like addressed it just so that like trolls and like the PC crowd about it they couldn't come for them. Yeah, basically. I'm like, well, there's still a couple of N-words in that movie which I forgot about when we watched it at Radical Rewind.

SPEAKER_01 50:33

I think there was just the one, wasn't there? Yeah, it's just Nick Frost going.

SPEAKER_00 50:38

Yeah, well, I was scared you were gonna say it then.

SPEAKER_01 50:40

No, I would not edit this.

SPEAKER_00 50:43

Oh, dude, this is I think for me, like, because obviously the rating 19 out of 19. This is a 19 out of 19 film, perfection by every measurement. It's just big enough for how much it cost, and it's not too small that it looks cheap and shitty. It is perfection, perfect casting, things like when they run into the other team that's like a mirror version of them. You got like, you know, and they turned out to all be like fake Matt Lucas, Martin Friedman, like it's yeah, fucking.

SPEAKER_02 51:16

Because they would have been big in England back then, yeah. But it wasn't until I was, you know, aware of what the office was and things like that. I was like, oh holy shit, everyone is someone. Yeah, that's great.

SPEAKER_00 51:29

It is so what a perfect movie. Um it was made for like an absolute shoestring budget, and it made like I think it was made for six million and it made like 40 million. Jesus. Not accounting for like rescreenings and shit now. But yeah, I love that everything is set up, like just the there's so many little like it is full of Easter eggs because obviously Edgar Ryder's a huge fan of Easter eggs and other films, so he just there was so much involved. I love that movie. Fantastic choice, and we we foreshadowed this a little bit at the start of the episode. Your next choice is from 1999, starring Devin Sawyer and the most beautiful Jessica Rauber of all time. Idle Hands. It's so am I picking up like judging by your film choices and your love of hip-hop? I'm guessing there was some herbal refreshments involved in your uh, you know, formative years.

SPEAKER_02 52:26

Yeah, there was a little bit. I drank more. I I was more known to drink a six-pack while there was bongs being passed around. Yes, yeah. I I really struggled with how it made me feel.

SPEAKER_01 52:38

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 52:39

But yeah, I I would dabble here and there, and yeah, it you know I and I don't like because obviously it was illegal at the time and stuff, and now it's kind of you know, because even my kids' age, like you know, they're turn eighteen and stuff, kids give zero fucks to the to a degree that we did about drinking and smoking and stuff. It's not, you know, they'll maybe do a vape pen or something, but they don't just don't give a fuck. Like we did. It's do they drink heavily and party and stuff like that? Or is it a lot of people? The amount of times I've bought well, maybe, maybe my son's a loser, but like I'll buy him a six-pack of like hard rated and he'll bring three home. And I'm like, what the fuck did you just do tonight? I'm like, Did you just go to a I'm like, we used to go to like a house that was gonna get knocked down. We'd go there, you'd smash every window, you'd kick through every gip rug wall. Like it was a rite of passage. Well you'd go to a park and drink and pass out, and you'd like to do it.

SPEAKER_02 53:31

You'd find a porno mag in a bush. One of the greatest things ever. I I made a lair under a bridge with pornos and stolen cigarettes, and then you had to get out because it was raining and come here and record today. That was this morning.

SPEAKER_00 53:45

I know, it's a struggle. Idle Hands featuring my favourite band of the time, The Offspring, getting murdered whilst playing covers of the remote. Scalping? Yeah, yeah. Fuck the the titties, the the comedy of Seth Green and the dude from uh Daredevil, I forget his name, The Bash Brother.

SPEAKER_02 54:05

The Foggy Nelson dude. Yeah, yeah, thank you. I can't I can't remember his name. He was also in butterfly effect.

SPEAKER_00 54:14

I think about that movie all the fucking time because I love the bad ending of that movie. Is that the one where he goes back into the feast? Where he babies it. That's the I can't watch the other one. That's the ending I originally saw and fell in love with the movie. 100%. Then seeing that other ending, I'm like, this movie's weak. Yeah, this movie sucks. Give me the director's cart. I'm gonna revisit that. I don't think I've re-watched it. I think that I'm pretty f-like, you know the guy, he's friends with Hugh Jackman. I never remember his name. I think his name's Durant. Something Durant. He's that big muscly action star. He was in he played the blob in the X-Men movie. I'm pretty sure he's a white guy playing a Mexican. He's the guy that's his cellmate that stops the Mexican gang from getting to him while he he does the fake stigmata for him in yeah. So I want to revisit to see how problematic it is that that guy's playing a full-on Mexican, like holy shit. Yeah. Fuck that movie's great. Thank you. I'm literally putting it on the list.

SPEAKER_02 55:18

Because yeah, I haven't watched it for many years, but that was to me where like because he uh Kutcher was on 70's show. Yep. And I was like, I I don't think anyone took him serious. And he did that movie, and I was like, fuck, he can act.

SPEAKER_00 55:32

There's certain characters in certain actors that play horrible people in movies, and that's them forever. Dylan, um, I can't think of his name, but fucking the movie Happiness, the guy that plays the pedo in that. Now I see him in anything else, and I'm in nope, I fucking hate you. And that's exactly what it's like for Eric Stoltz for me because of the butterfly effect. I'm like, nope, you're a pedo, I hate you, I hate you. Um yeah, man. Great choice with Idle Hands. Idle Hands also introduced me to Rob Zombie. A lot of people, I had like because I was a bit of a metalhead at the time. I had friends going, Hey, what's that Dig Through the Ditches song that they're watching? That's sick. Um, pop that coochie as well. This movie's perfect, and I think it was That was two live crew, wasn't it? It was, yeah. Or tag team. I reckon there's two versions of no, I'm thinking Whoop, there it is, Pop That Coochie. Yeah, it is gotta be two live crew, yeah. They were revolutionary, they were I love that real risque like early 90s fucking RB and rap. Um and it had Kaylin by Unwritten Lore at the end, and I used to play that song down the phone to a girl that I liked back in the day. I love the cringe memories that you had like being 16 and like ring up on the Philip Savvy because was free after nine and be like, hey you listen to this song. I and it'd be like ding did a link did a link because you hold the phone too close to the speaker.

SPEAKER_02 56:57

I remember like I was a bit of a late bloomer, but I remember a mate of mine in year seven was dating a girl and he played like ah it must have been like a Nelly song to her, and he was like Would you be my girlfriend? And he thought he was like he thought it was like the smoothest move, and we'll I do that song so shit.

SPEAKER_00 57:21

I pretend in year 12 I handed in Pete Murray's Beautiful to a music assessment pretending I wrote it, and at the time it was just on like one of those, like I think it was one of the Aussie music magazines, it was on a sampler and it hadn't been released yet. So you're like, I'm in. I it was like 2003. I'd written this song to teach like that's fantastic, you should really stick with this. I'm like, I hate you. Like, I hated my music teacher, that's why I hate music. The year after I finished school, that song was the biggest fucking song for like six years. Fucking, I always every time I hear it, a friend of uh the show, Alexis. I send her a message. I'm like, your mate Pete's still pretending that's his song. Um let's go back to 1997. We're talking titties, we're talking gore, we're talking the director of Robocop, science fiction, Casper Van Dieren's crazy attractive, Dizzy's tits are fantastic. Dina Meyer. He should have been with Dizzy when her tits got pulled out in one of the Saw movies when they pull out her whole rib cages. I was like, no, not the do it to her face, not the titties, put the head laser one on her, not the titties. Starship Troopers, Nazis, Nazis in space. This is a perfect movie.

SPEAKER_02 58:38

I again saw this in cinemas. So did I I saw it.

SPEAKER_00 58:42

So it must have been eight. Yeah, do you remember? Do you remember when like free to wear TV video hits would finish, and for some reason, because of the lengths of songs, I guess being all different, they'd finish 15 minutes early. So always free to wear was playing something before the next show started that ran for like 15. I remember watching a feature ad on the making of Starship Troopers. Oh, that would have been a good idea. And because at the time, like you didn't care about ratings. I I also remember watching one much earlier about Universal Soldier and being like, Oh, I can't fucking wait to see that movie. I went to Starship Troopers not knowing how fucking gory it was. Yeah, sat down expecting, oh, this is a Star Wars type movie. Gore, tits, fucking action glory. I'm pretty sure my parents were shocked.

SPEAKER_02 59:28

I they they obviously took me and my brother, and I and it was like and the 90s, and it's my favourite thing, like look at the room you're sitting in.

SPEAKER_00 59:38

I love that the 1990s they would market that shit to kids. Like hey kids, I'm surprised it wasn't the KFC fucking meal.

SPEAKER_02 59:47

They had I found out this year only like six months ago, they had a toy line as well.

SPEAKER_00 59:52

Uh Steve from Toy Um what is it, Toy Room Tattoo Emporium. He has all the the original toys for her. They're fucking sick. All the um arachnids look so good. Man, I love this. Uh we have so much in common. I think it's the scene in uh Step Brothers, we just become best friends. This movie shows in that fucking movie. Dumb action. Some people I like I really like because he obviously directed an all-time classic that is Robocop and also directed the all-time classic that is his showgirls. Paul Verhoven has like double dipped because whenever someone says this is stupid action bullshit, he's like, Yeah, yeah, it is. Like if someone says it's positive and then like, oh, this is like a you know, this is a satire on fashion. He's like, Yeah, that's what I was doing. Yeah, and he just he'll he'll say yes to anything. I didn't know he directed Showgirls. He did. You need to know your classic.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:52

I I am fucking shocked right now. It's the perfect movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:57

Alright, I'm watching that this weekend. It is fuck yeah. That movie's so garbage. There's not enough nudity, there's not enough nudity in that film to make it good.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:07

Even with a name like Showgirls, I'm expecting like skin emax.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:11

I want spread lips. I want the upside down V Holding Them Open from Elizabeth Berkeley, whilst the theme to say by the bell plays, and it doesn't happen. Gina Gershaw was my go-to in that because I don't know why she's just always been so attractive.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:30

Do you know who I'm trying to think?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:33

I couldn't even list something she's in that's worthwhile remembering.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:36

It's like your catalogue is shit, but you got great.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:38

She's got that exact yeah, basically, she's in the same category as Jennifer Tilly. It's like other than Curse of Chucky, like she's just hot. Like anyway. When's the last time you re-watched uh Starship Troopers?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:55

This year. Yeah. So like I I it's a I freak I I go to it every like at least two or three times a year. Yeah. Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:05

I'm gonna watch it this weekend. I fucking love that movie. And it's so funny, like fucking doogie houses in there as fucking or Barney from How I Met Your Mother. Yeah, um and he's the mad scientist doing all the he's got the brain thing. It's scared. The giant vagina bug. Yeah. It's like, does it have to look like a big wet pussy?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:28

Like speaking of vaginas, have you seen the balcony scene and Attack of the Clones? Yes. And in Geonosis, they're standing and it's got these triangles, they look exactly like vaginas. It's great. They're standing on a bike balcony of vaginas. Amazing.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:44

George Lucas knew what he was doing. I've met some rough girls in my life, and they look like Rancor mouths. So yeah, I totally see it. Speaking of Rancors, the best of the Star Wars films, and that's a hill I will die on. I'm willing to hear anyone's criticism living tell listening, should I say, or dead. Tell me what is better than Return of the Jedi. I'm waiting to hear a valid argument. But for the affirmative, Loki, tell us why Return of the Jedi is the best Star Wars film of all time. It had because of Yub Nub. It's the correct issue.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:19

I and like I will stand on this hill. I struggle with the special edition version because I am uh because Yub Nub's not in it. Yub Nub's not in it, but it also doesn't have the butthole sarak pit. It's got the beak pit. I I'm a firm believer in I need it to look like a prolapse arsenal.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:39

You know what? As soon as I put the phallic dick coming out of the dick worm. Nope. It's a butthole. It's not a dick. It's like it's got a beak. I'm pretty sure it's Audrey 2 from Little Shop of Horrors in the special.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:53

Almost the same. But yeah, it's got Yeah, and he jumps and dives straight in. But yeah, that movie was I think I was the right age, you know. Like I know older generations they would say that the Ewoks were teddy bears in space, and I it's like I get that argument, but to me they're like vicious cannibals that fucking like think about this. Why did they have a dress for Leia to get into unless they unless they already ate another woman? Absolutely. Like good point. They're not just gonna make one on the fly, they killed somebody.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:33

Probably it's probably skin. And it's I like the idea like they try to present that like the ewoks of captured fucking a heap of um scout troopers, death troopers, and thing, and they're playing drums with the empty helmets. No, that's until I'm older that I was like, hang on, that's fucking heads. That has to be heads. And I still think I remember being a kid and like being so fucking sad every time that um the walk gets killed and the other one's like it's sad.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:05

That'll bring you to tears.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:06

The Imperial shuttle is one of my favorite vehicles. It's hands down, one of my favourite ships of all time. So sick. I remember there was this I don't even know what it was called, but there was like a martial arts sci-fi movie because I used to watch so much shitty martial arts movies, and the point was Earth was dying and you could pay money to fly and live at the moon. Nice, and the ship they used was just the fucking pretty much the Imperial shuttle, and it just made me go, Oh, is this an extended Star Wars film? I think George Lucas go and saw somebody. Oh, Return of the Jedi is fucking perfect. It's also when they're like, you know what? It's the most Han Solo Han Solo is in all of the films. Because like just him, I love the bit where he gets the um he tricks the guys to come out of the um shield generated door and then he just shrugs. I'm like, that's perfect.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:58

Um he steps on the branch. And he's like, oh shit, now I've got to date this dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:02

And it wasn't even until a couple of years ago that I realized that he's the ATS T driver that's like, you guys need to come outside and help us fuck these guys up. We've got them retreating. I didn't realize that's him with the helmet on tricking them to come out. I did not get that as a thing. I don't think I've gotten that either. ATS, you know, you know, they showed the footage from inside the shield generator. Yeah. And it shows the ATS T driver with the fucking welding helmet on going, come out here, these cunts are fucked. That is Han Zolo doing that. No way. Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:35

Alright. I've got to watch it tonight. For the like, I listen to a podcast that's been going for 20 years called Rebel Force Radio. Yeah. And they always have like a bit at the start of their intro, and it's uh Tracy Morgan going, I've seen Star Wars 500 times. I just like every review I give of Star Wars is just I've seen Star Wars 500 times. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:55

It is yeah, the the original trilogy is pretty perfect. Like I can't think of another trilogy that maybe The Lord of the Rings, and but that's only if you're into that kind of thing. The quality is probably similar over those three as it is Star Wars. But then you know, when you start or maybe back to the future.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:13

Back to the Future's dope.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:14

When you start measuring it against other trilogies, like you look at Terminator the first three, fucking good, perfect, shit house.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:23

How how speaking on Terminator three, how did you feel about the ending? Because that to me made up for how shit the movie was. I like that brought judgment day.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:32

The only thing that for me that needed to fix it would be Edward Furlong playing.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:36

100%. Yeah, he OD'd. Yeah. I don't know if you heard that. Yeah, at the club. Yeah. Celebrating getting the job. Job and then ODing. And it was like a no drug clause. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:47

Poor bastard. And then, like, I think like five years after the film, Nick Stoll just completely went missing on drugs, and they're like, no one knew where he was for like a couple years. It's like he mimicked his character. He's a method actor. He just doesn't start. He's like uh Austin Butler couldn't stop doing Elvis voice. Nick Stoll couldn't stop doing junkie. Uh he's just finding light globes everywhere. And you know what? It's it was the 1990s. I genuinely appreciate and think it's funny the gay stripper being where the Terminator gets his leather outfit from. That's fucking funny. The star glasses is funny, and the chain gun in the cemetery is fucking cool. Still, yeah, that was great. The hunter killer at the base, the like the not the floaty one, the tanky one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:36

Scary as shit. Even um having was it Dr. Silverman? Yes. Even he comes back and he like freaks out.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:43

He's like, oh no, no, no, no, not not this. Even that shitty one with um, oh, what's that old director whose face looks like a ball-up fist? Jason Clark.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:53

Oh, I fucking hated that movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:55

I fucking hated that. But they had JK uh Simmons as Dr. Silverman, and I'm like, fuck off.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:02

I think the worst Terminator movie was the newest one where they brought back Dark Fate. Yeah. Because I was I was all on board for like the girl gang. Yeah. But they killed Eld Edward Furlong in like the first scene, and I'm like, no, this is the whole I'm the guy that fucking loved that scene.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:20

Really? Because it was it was the most audacious director shitting on the source material that I've ever seen. It's like we talked about Star Wars with the course correction and thing. This is like, hey fans that have come to see me, continue Terminator 2. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:37

I was and that was Mick uh not McG. What's his name? He this guy did McG did Salvation. No, he did, yes, Salvation. This the director of this directed Deadpool, the first Deadpool. Oh Tim Miller.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:49

Yes. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, because he owned the the sign uh the special effects company. That's yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:58

So even he he'd come out and said like he got told to put a bunch of stuff in it, and I think it was rushed to do the movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:06

I think the thing I know the thing that like got a lot of criticism that he came out and blamed everyone else for were the um like spider terminators that had the tentacles in the future. They were fucking cool. Give me more, give me more machines, build on you know what? When are we gonna see the fucking future war we were promised in Terminator 2 and Terminator 1 work? Let's I want to see the light, I want to see the laser tag lights flying through the air. Yeah, just give us that movie. Salvation made it look like it was in fucking Iraq. I'm like, no, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:39

I think that that was probably a product of its time as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:42

Get out, cunts, I'm not a terminator, I'm Sam Worthington.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:45

And then he fuck off. I've got uh uh robotics in my body, no, I donated myself.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:54

Oh Tim Burton's wife had cancer, so I'm a Terminator now. I'm like Yeah, fuck. I'm from California.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:04

What's going on, cunts? I do like how he's so blatantly Aussie.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:09

That's not a bit supposed to be.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:11

I know.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:12

There is um a movie called Sabotage, it's not very good with Schwarzenegger in it, and they're like a special ops team that do black ops, and he's got fucking cornrows in it. He's still supposed to be American, but he's just got that voice, and he's like an Aussie with cornrows is so disgusting. What's going on, cunts? Let's I'm I'm from fucking Florida, eh? No, you're not. You want to give that another chance?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:39

Oh, Pandora cunts. Because yeah, that was the m Avatar was the movie that took him to America, right? Yeah, and he had to have a dialect coach, and I think that dialect coach should get fucking fired.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:51

Do you know who the dialect coach was? Brian Brown. He's like, right, here's how you do an American accent, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:58

Do you know who did a really bad American accent was in the first Mortal Kombat movie that came out? Kano. No, no, no, Kano's fine because he's an Aussie.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:06

But it's you know the other Aussie that's in like every other fucking movie? It's the one that he's the dude that fucking chopper stabs or gets Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:16

The guy and just know him from Getting Square. Yes. He did Noah Noah Hungry Thirsty Dead ads. Oh, sorry, I'm thinking of the wrong guy. I'm thinking of the Noah, whatever the fuck he's called. But yeah, the hungry thirsty.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:31

He's the coach at the gym in this new 2021 Mortal Kombat. He is the one that was filmed in Port Adelaide.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:38

He did a big rant about Aussie films just last couple of months ago, and I was like, it's so funny that no one knows that gun's name. He's from Two Hands, he's the shit gun of two hands. Oh man. Pando. Pando, yeah, no, Pando's Brian Brown, but he's the he's the guy whose car is uh the dirty bullets guy. Yeah, what else is he in? Oh, the in-betweeners movie as well. What the second one where they come to a scale.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:01

I need a report.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:02

He's been don't volin his fucker, he's been fucking the front lawn. Yes, that guy, that's the guy that taught Steve Worthington to not do an Oscan accent.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:12

He he's trying to do an American accent in Mortal Kombat, and you're like, fuck, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:16

I have said, because it's one of my favourite words, I've said cunt infinity times. I still can't put the sting on it that Brian Brown does in when he says cunt. He says it, and like he could chop someone in half with the word cunt the way that he says it's just an art form. Yeah. The only other time I've seen it is um David Wenham in like I can't remember the Aussie movie. It was like an indie Aussie movie, and every time he said cunt, you're like, oh, that was it wasn't the boys, was it? That was a really early. That's the one with that's Sam Worthington, Hugh Jackman, and um Dave Wenham. Is that the boys?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:52

No, I think the boys has uh Tony Collette in it as well. Yeah, right. About a crime, like a family in Melbourne that are involved in crime. Like the in crime.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:05

Actually, um Ray Shoesmith, whatever that actor's called, the guy from Mr. Inbetween, he does a good Aussie space.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:11

Oh, yeah, yeah. I need to watch that TV show. I heard it's really good.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:15

I promise you, from the bottom of my heart, it's better than Breaking Bad. I honestly think that is my honest opinion of Mr. Inbetween. Because Breaking Bad's like a 10 out of 10. Mr. Inbetween's better in my heart. Uh it might be the Aussie centric. It's on Binge, but be warned, because I had binge, binge doesn't auto-play the next episode. Oh, you prick. So it'll finish and then it'll play like season three episodes. So like there was a big character death. It went from us like halfway through me and my wife halfway through first season, next episode played, and they're mourning the death of a main character, and we're like, fucking. And then the next step, we're like, what? And then we realised we exited out. I was like, oh yeah, they just play like by most popular and shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:01

That's the shittiest fucking system I've ever heard.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:06

And the same thing for I think it was Binge, the new maybe that was Netflix, the new Heartbreak High skipped like four episodes for us. Wow. But that's really not the greatest show.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:17

No, I just remember the dude that ended up being in underbelly as one of the Alex Demetri Artist, yeah. He's my wife's uh Was it him or the guy with like the scar down his mouth?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:29

Oh Drazic. Um yeah, sorry, yeah. He was also in the later um anyone that could act in Australia was in Underbelly, one of them. Then like the Dita Brummer one where it was like after the 1940s.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:43

I did have a friend that starred in the Tony Mockbell spin-off. Yeah. So I um was that Razor Wire or some shit?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:52

I can't dumb names.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:54

No, I can't remember his character's name, but he's uh Gary Sweet's son.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:59

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:00

So he lives in Melbourne and has a uh rock band as well, which is pretty cool called These New South Wales. They're pretty fucking cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:07

They're all you know why I find them out about because I still I'm a Silver Chair apologist. I they have Daniel Johns on there because they've got an ABC show called The New South Wales, don't they? Or was it a web series? Must be a web series. But fucking Daniel Johns just showed they must live in um Newcastle, maybe. He just fucking shows up all the time, and I'm like, what the fuck? Like modern weird uh artifarty Daniel Johns, not the best coolest guy, Daniel Johns.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:35

Not uh Kirk Cobain rip-off.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:37

Yeah, yeah. There's nothing wrong with that. Let's go back to 1990 to your next film choice. Uh I've never heard of this one. It's something about teenagers and turtles. What is this movie? Tell me about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:50

It is to me the the perfect comic book adaptation of a movie. It it fuck it, it's one of the best movies ever made.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:59

One of the highest earning uh it's not just one of the highest earning indies of all time, it's uh famously in Hollywood, it's one of the highest returns from investment films of all time because it costs fuck all to make. Like it costs absolutely nothing, and it made it became a cultural phenomenon. It was more my biggest issue with no I've got no issues with the first. It's a perfect film, perfect soundtrack, perfect everything. The second one, because parents were fuckwits. Yeah, they had to tone it down, they couldn't use and there is a scene in the second one where they're trapped in a rope net, much like Return of the Jedi, and they can't get out, and fucking Leo has his swords on his back. I'm like, this is bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:46

Yeah, they have to wait for Splinter to shoot it down. Mind you, that scene like in the second one is still one of my favourite. It's like this is a little too easy. Yeah, a little too easy. It's like, hey, there's Raf. Yeah, a little do Raf. Like it's it's fucking great. But the origin like the first one, I I don't think I saw it in cinemas, but I remember my cousins in Brisbane going to their house, and they had all the toys, they had the turtle blimp. We're talking like early, early 90s, and I was just taken aback by it, and we obviously had toys as well, but seeing their collection just really made me go, like, holy crap, you guys got everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:28

But that it's a perfect movie, like even in Broken Hill. Like, when we I remember seeing it at the cinema, and famously back then, Broken Hill used to get movies maybe two months after they'd been because it wasn't even a big enough market to get like a first release of the film. Because it was back in the days where like Rick, we're making they're like, We'll make a hundred copies, and it can be shared, like we're not giving you more copies like they do now, it's just a digital file. So back then, I remember by the time movies would get to Broken Hill, they'd been played for like fucking six months in like King's Cross in Sydney. So were they quite worn? The quality was worn, the contrast was fucked on them, so it was everything was so dark. And I remember mum and dad being like, You couldn't see anything that was happening, like any and it's such a dark movie at night. Anytime they're in the sewers, you're like, Oh well, fucking you can hear what they're saying, and that's about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:23

But perfect movie, perfect VHS, as you would know. The clamshell, army green tape, and uh that when I found that at an op shop, and like my my copy's pretty good Nick. Yeah, bit of cracking here and there, no yellowing to the case, just seeing that tape again after like 20 years or whatever that I hadn't seen it, I just nearly cried. Yeah. I was like, this is it, this is what I had as a kid, this is life. Fuck yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:58

I love those, yeah. Things that can as you can see from the room you're sitting in, things that can inspire that vibe is just 100%. There's nothing it cannot be beaten. It cannot be beaten. Well, that's all your movies, it's time to talk CDs.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:12

Alright. This yeah, these might be controversial.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:16

Maybe let's talk about your favorite albums of all time. Starting off with is it pronounced Zarface? The album Zar Face is from 2013, featuring Inspector Deck and 7L and Esoteric. It's a comic book-inspired concept album, blends underground hip-hop with nerd culture. I don't need to ask why you like this. I can see all the working.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:45

It's it is the perfect blend of hardcore hip-hop with hardcore pornography and pornography.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:56

I mean, hardcore nerds and hardcore pornography. That's my inside of my brain.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:02

This is the Zarface character. Yeah, right. They make toys as well, like so. Yeah, it's and that's from Super Seven. And Zarface is the character there. Esoteric has gone on to write comic books, and he's done a couple of I'm pretty sure he did. I think he'd written something for maybe Spider-Man or he did a Marvel comic, but he's gone on to write a czarface comic. They released albums specifically where it was one of the read-along vinyls, so it was a whole story.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:42

I was gonna say, just reading here, it says he's built an entire extended universe around this album that expands it with comics and even merch, like like you say, like fucking that's insane. Apparently, it's famous for having some of the most deep-cut pop culture references of any album, and uh it's been hounded as one of the coolest concept identities in modern hip hop.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:06

His his knowledge of Star Wars would make any nerd proud. Yeah, and I've spoken to him on Instagram uh quite a lot. He probably thinks that I'm annoying because I hit him up quite often to be like, dude, did you see this episode? Did you see this? And yeah, like throughout their run from 2013, they've released about six or seven albums, and the references to Star Wars and Star Wars toys go so deep, and his love for Marvel is like because I I like Marvel movies, but I'm not so much familiar with the comics. Yeah. So he has a song on the last album they released where he goes alphabetically through the alphabet and names the favourite characters of the Marvel characters, and he's doing it to and so his his kids feature on the albums quite frequently. Uh his son's like 16 now, but he's got all these recordings from when he was a kid, and there's conversations at the end of songs about who shot first, and like it's it's just like yeah, you know, Zarface goes for more than blue snaggletooth, like he's saying his toys go for more than like the expensive hard-to-find Kenner toys. Like it's fucking wild.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:21

I love it. I love when a passion is to be able to do so many things that he loves and it still be original. Like he's like, I'm creating something, but I'm also you know, I'm highlighting all my favourite things ever. Fuck, he must love getting out of bed every day. It I would assume he has a pretty fucking cool life. I can imagine, yeah. Um, next on your list from 1999, one of my favourite hip-hop albums of all time, Eminem's The Slim Shady LP, Overseen by Dr. Dre, the breakout breakout album for Eminem. He won a Grammy for Best Rap album. My name is famously one of the most censored songs of all time. I still laugh. I listen to digital radio and it plays my name is and it senses certain things, but it leaves in tits. Interesting. It's like, how are you gonna breastfeed me, Mummy? Ain't got no tits. That's still in there, but then like way less things are censored. Like tell my mum I'm gonna do a dr a song about no, do an album about and it senses the word drugs, but then tits is fine. That's super I don't understand where the line is for these kind of things.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:33

It was like for me, like you know, I would consider myself a big stan. Like, I I love the dude's music, I love the guy's journey and his recovery story. Uh, but that album is just so fucking wild. Just the guy literally just going, like, I'm going to say the most offensive shit just to piss you off. Yeah. And like I'm pretty sure he doesn't condone rape and all these things, but it was like, what's gonna shock people?

SPEAKER_00 1:25:02

It's provocate, like, he's a provocateur, like much like Manson, much much like Ozzy Osborne, like all these famous characters over the years that in hindsight, because society changes and you get desensitized, even Alice Cooper and stuff, you're like, oh, that's nothing. Yeah, it's like even now, you like I listened back to it, I'm like, oh that that's childish shit because the shit I've since heard then. Yeah, it's even like like that fucking rap song where the dude fucks his own mum. Oh, immortal technique. Like, I heard that last year, even though like it's fucking really old. I only heard that last year. I'm like, dance with the devil. And I'm like, you know what? I've been left behind by hip-hop. It is so much more fucking offensive than I've ever thought it could be.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:45

Yeah, that that he's a brilliant artist, that dude. Like, you know, uh like a proper activist. Uh, and yeah, he's phenomenal. But like it's one of the like just the drug references is so funny because like you know the dude probably never shot up drugs, but he's like, you know, there's the song like the bad meets evil song with Royce of 5-9. It's like they're saying he's insane. He goes, No, I'm not, I'm pissed off because I'm just trying to shoot up and I can't find a decent bean. Like, it's just lyrically, like, so fucked up, but so well thought out.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:19

Oh, absolutely, and that's the thing, that's probably my biggest like issue I have with Aussie hip-hop. You listen to it, and yeah, fair enough they're being like, you know, fucking the curses of the world and stuff, fair enough they're being provocative, but they're not being smart about it. So it's like, yeah, Cans I'm gonna throw rocks at a fucking train.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:38

It's like I th I I struggle with a lot, like I loved like the early era of Aussie hip hop. I really struggle with today's stuff because they go like it just mimics, it doesn't have an original Australian sound. It's like they someone discovered 1995 gangster rap, like NG Funk, and they're like But it's like a lot of it I'm hearing, and it you know, it's like drill rap, and they're talking about guns and drugs, and it's just like I'm pretty sure you don't have guns or drugs. Or you probably have drugs because it's drugs, but guns?

SPEAKER_00 1:27:14

I just find too many Aussie hip-hop artists don't have anything to say, but they're still like you know, they might release fucking six songs a a week. And you're like, live some life and tell a fucking story.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:28

Like, and don't get me wrong, I love hardcore hip-hop, I love like coke rap. Like when you hear like West Side Gun and like the Griselda gang from Buffalo Americ in America, like they literally there's there's one guy um called Stovegod, I think it's Stovegod, and he literally has a song called like Pyrex, and he's talking about heating up a Pyrex jug and it breaking because he's cooking so much crack. It's like this stuff is so entertaining.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:57

Yeah, see that and even like I know like I'm pretty Sure, the fucking you know the allegation train came in on the singer, but like even things like fucking um butterfingers, I'm like this shit's I'm like this shit's fucking filthy, it's perfect every time the song at every time it's so well thought out. I think Seth Century to a degree and even like Illy and stuff, there's some fucking gold in there, but they still they've only got a few stories to tell, and it's like oh fuck you, and even Blessed and Esso, they're like, we party on the weekend and we're Aussies, it's like I I struggle.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:33

I think Bliss and Esso to me are like fucking proper tryhards, yeah. Um I I love loved growing up with the funcores, like the Adelaide crew, and you know, I lost count of how many times I went to their shows growing up. Like they used to there was a show they did at it was the venue right next door to the Mars bar. Yep, and it was upstairs, and they had a blender on stage.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:59

Oh, my first ever gig in Diamond Sins was at that place. It I can't even remember it was fucking cold at the time, but it was they just kept reopening under different names and never changed the inside though. Oh fuck, I can't even remember. It was on Guja Street. I know exactly, I know I can show you photos of me in that club.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:19

I was front row and they gave me a jug of whatever they had and I blacked out and I don't remember the rest of the night.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:24

But you know what? The guy from uh jujitsu came back and he fucking choked you out again. Um yeah, Aussie hip-hop just it it isn't it as far as I'm concerned. Like you even listen to like the more successful ones, like 360. It's like, hey cunts, I'm gone blind and I live in Melbourne and I was once addicted to Patol. It's like there's eight songs. Thanks. Yeah, we get it.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:48

I I I I still a firm believer that I hilltops are pretty fucking good. Like they're they've gone full commercial, yeah, but they still have really entertaining music. Like it's gone full pop, but I still somehow go, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:03

I got upset they stopped playing Cosby Sweater because that's you know, I'd I'd be happy if they're like, you know what, we're gonna change the lyric. It's now called Rapey Sweater. And they're like like, let's lead into this. I'm like, fucking, this is your best uh, you know, this is your catchiest song. Yeah. Um, because I it it's much like the Red Hot Chili Peppers effect. I heard nosebleed section so much that yeah that my brain it's the same thing when the fucking when the opening of a live by Pearl Dram plays on the radio, I cannot change it quick enough because I'm like, I've heard pain. It's the same as under the bridge. They're all perfect songs, iconic once-in a generation songs. I've just heard them to the point where it's like it's fucking ever long now. I'm like, I don't, I'm not gonna get anything else out of it. There's no dopamine left in this well.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:52

That's exactly and that's okay because you've had your you've had your time to shine with it.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:56

And like someone on 3D radio the other day played the song that it's sampled from. Oh fucking god awful. The yeah, because the lady sink she passed away a couple of years ago or this year. Oh, it must have been close to that, but it was like um it's just a folk song. And they would have sped it up, yeah. They did. It was it was it sounded like a Janice Joplin B-side fucking folk like garbage. I wasn't for it. Alright, let's get through your list for this four-hour episode non-fiction, and it's I'm so old that it took me a bit to read that. The future is now from 2002. Il Bill. I've been lent, I've been lent from uh Osti from um King Kai 2 Collectibles. What a man, he has lent me not this album, it's one of the other Il Beal albums, just because he's like, dude, I don't know why you don't love this. This is you, and he's trying to sell it to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:54

Did he give you the album What's Wrong with Bill with Anatomy of a School Shooting?

SPEAKER_00 1:31:59

I will show you it when we go back out to the Turtle Room which one it is, because he's like, if you don't I he's like, if this is another thing I lend you and you give it back without listening, I'm actually gonna fucking this is the last thing I'll ever do.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:12

I I will reiterate that. Like the dude the this album is like the super group of white boys going fucking nuts, like predominantly necro production, but then it had like a NAS effect where they had a culmination of all these producers like Prima. I'm pretty sure Pete Rock was on there as well. And it's just like what I got from it was the shock factor when I was young, because I heard it and I go, I don't know anybody talking like this. And they're talking about like shooting Reagan, they're talking about fucking drugs, like they're Il Bill and Necro are biological brothers, yeah, and their uncle was a crackhead, and they feature interviews all throughout their albums of his stories. Yeah, right. And it's so fucking unhinged that they would talk about conspiracy theories, you know, and like yeah, it's just it is a perfect album to me, and it's like I there's probably a theme with the albums that I had that very aggressive. I was an angry kid growing up, and I didn't have an outlet to to get out that energy, so I would just be pissed off all the time.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:22

So I listened to Crazy Town for exactly the same reason. A lot less, a lot less uh fucking respected still. This was Crazy Town were my ill bill. Dope. No, what was the guy's name? Shifty Shellshock. Is he the one that passed away recently? He did, yes. R.I.P. Shifty. His last performance was in like a music store with zero teeth in his mouth. Oh shit. It's uh and I'm upset, and this is why you need to collect CDs. The Gift of Game, the uh iconic Crazy Town album that yes does feature butterfly. They've censored it because apparently the algorithms online now put offensive stuff way lower down, it doesn't recommend it. That's why I never see anything. So they are fucking they've bleeped swearing out of it. What? And they're doing it with heaps of albums, they're removing the swears, so even though it's still the same album, it's no longer got that E for fucking explicit. No, that's it and then it can auto-play in um people's, you know, when you do you're like, Oh, make a playlist for me. It pushes it higher. It's fucked, man. I don't respect that.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:36

As much as I think Konye is a fucking dick, the fact that he went back to all his albums on streaming and removed swearing. Yeah. So you're ruining your albums. Yeah, like it is swearing, it is not bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:49

Like, sure, you don't want your kids when's he's gonna put his Hale Hitler song on Spotify?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:54

That's what I'm waiting for. Um, yeah, I don't know when that's gonna happen. But yeah, I was like, because I was like, I want to listen to a couple of Konye songs just uh like for the early days, and I was like, he's ruining these albums.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:08

Yeah, it says uh the future is now is celebrated as one of the most anti-mainstream hip hops that's also aged perfectly.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:18

I just listened to it last night and it is still phenomenal.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:23

Next on your list from the year 2000, I've got no idea why you would have picked this album, Jedi Mind Tricks with Violet by Design. It is uh one of the strongest indie selling hip-hop albums. It's got landmark underground album, heavy film samples, and aggressive tone throughout. So, was this also Angry Lockie?

SPEAKER_02 1:35:43

But this this was Angry Lockie, but this was also Lockie looking at his brother going, Oh, we bought a Star Wars CD. Yeah. So I put it in, and my it instantly begins with the intro, and it's talking about beware of the beast man from the original Planet of the Apes.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:59

I like that you're like putting it in expecting the Cantina band, like dude dude, I was just like and you get it.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:06

It's clearly not gonna be about Star Wars. It's got an African American man running through the jungle in Vietnam. Yeah. Like it is a fucking This album for me is if you want to get a starting point for hip-hop, an underground hip-hop, this is the perfect place because it introduced me to Seven L and Esoteric, it introduced me to another group called Outer Space, Army of the Pharaoh. So it was this shooting point, you know. I went in looking for a Star Wars album, yeah, and I got my world opened up musically because of it. And yeah, it's riddled with samples of movies, but again, it's just it's just stuff like as a kid, you like to me I I got really shitty at the radio because every song was about love and no one was talking about like shit that you know I didn't know about American culture, I didn't know about like African American culture, and these dudes are white, yeah. Like, but it's just so intense, and yeah, from wanting a Star Wars CD to getting like and still to this day, Vinny Paz, who's the singer and stoop is the producer, they still make albums today.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:16

I'm just glad all these artists could jump on board after Limp Biscuit invented HIV. That's just where I'm coming from. Fred Durst, you maniac. We're gone to 1999, so I I can see this is like a lot of your formative years of start of high school, basically. Method Man, Red Man, the album is blackout, platinum selling, uh, you know, everyone was of love. These were the two, these were Wu-Tang's two guys. Like, I don't know if you've ever seen the iconic episode of Cribs where they go to Red Man's house and it's just actually his house. But all these celebrities were renting like fucking luxury villas, yeah, all these Porsches and fucking luxury cars and stuff. His cousin asleep on the floor, and one of the stops, and much like us going through my turtle room today, the Dave Cave, um he goes and shows all these porn DVDs. Yeah, dude, it is iconic. Um, you know, they were lucky, you know, these these upstart guys, at particularly Method Man, um, he was lucky enough to work with Limp Biscuit and learn about hip hop with end together now.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:27

And that was a primo beat, I'm pretty sure, too. Like DJ Premiere from Gangster.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:32

And even Red Man's fucking I was obsessed, even though it was a lot later than this and it's a lot more radio friendly. When De La Soul's Ooh featuring Red Man. Fantastic. Fuck, I love that song.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:43

I saw De Last Soul in February. Yeah, my son went to that. It was phenomenal.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:48

Fuck yeah. Rest in peace, Dave. So why did you pick Method Man and Red Man?

SPEAKER_02 1:38:53

Uh, to me, it is the perfect like upbeat hip-hop album, like it's full of back and forth, like lyrically, they're so dope. Like, Red Man wasn't in Wu-Tang, but like he always affiliated with them and stuff. And then Method Man is just one of the standout artists from the nine members of Wu-Tang. Yeah, and you put them together, and it was the greatest chemistry in hip-hop. Like, you know, they've only like they collaborate still to this day. Red Man released Muddy Waters 2 last year, and they still had a song about weed, and it's just like they are the black Cheech and Chong.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:32

Yeah, fuck yeah. How high higher learning, like higher learning's a phenomenal movie. I loved those movies. Half baked, just stoner comedies were a thing. Like the late late 90s, early 2000s stoner comedies were so fucking the faculty. There was so much love for yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:53

I mean, that's body snatchers in high school, but it's still fucking phenomenal.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:57

Absolutely. I fucking love that movie. Um they're remaking it, and I'm like, I I'm not happy with that because that's unless Robert Rodriguez makes it himself again. Like, that's the only thing. And Selma Hayek gets him out in it. She somehow comes back and gets him out.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:13

Every movie could be made better with Selma Hayek's tits. She is a phenomenal movie. That's a lore. That is a lore, and I don't care what era.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:21

Yeah, From Dust Till Dawn was gonna be on my movies. I love that movie to death of Titty Twister Bar. Dude, I'm gonna live there. I'll happily turn, I'll happily be a vampire for that. I just want to have like I just want to know, like, break the fourth wall and know that Cheech had three different characters.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:39

Yeah, man, you look heaps like the DEA agent that checked out bus. Believe it or not, Lucky, that is all your favorite things. That's gangster. It's the longest episode we've ever done. Holy shit. Congratulations. That was a lot of fucking fun. Where can people check out Punch It Podcast? Tell us all about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:58

Punch It Podcast is on YouTube at the moment. We are in talks and discussions about putting it on other streaming services like Spotify. Yep. Uh it's just, and we are going to a weekly format to keep it more regular, and we will be talking about all things pop culture. Star Wars, yes, because you know, Mandalorian and Grogu's out at the moment, and you know, Marco, who is the spearhead of the Kessel Run crew, he loves his 3D printing, so they're in Somerton Park, and it it's a hair salon. He they like to say it's not a barber shop. It's it's famously doesn't have that masculine barber shop atmosphere. You so you go in, there's a giant table, there's toys everywhere, there's 3D printed Star Wars characters, and it's just a really cool, fun So no trendy fuckwits, is what you say.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:54

Basically, that's my biggest issue.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:56

And hands down, they don't do fades because sick, yeah, it's very much like fuck that.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:01

And you know what? I was one over, I was listening to one of your most recent episodes. Shout out to the owner of Kessel Run. I heard him say no raises. I get the worst fucking rashes every time I get so fuck yeah, I'm I'm on board.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:14

Scissors and clippers, and they're once a month they do DD nights hosted by Maddie. Uh Maddie's another one of the uh hairdressers there. So if you're into your Dungeons and Dragons, there is nights for that too. Yeah, uh yeah, they're just some of the nicest down-to-earth people I've ever met.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:34

I walked into their and it's not those fucking pretentious salons now where it's like, look, we've got mahogany wood paneling and fucking gold trim mirrors. It's like fuck off. Yeah, and that's why you this is why your haircuts cost 90 bucks. Because I'm paying for I'm paying for your gold leaf ceiling, you fuck knuckle. And yeah, as as we know, a lot of those are just bloody I get my hair cut at a fucking mall by a Vietnamese lady that tells me how fat I am.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:01

I get my hair cut by me. Yeah, because I have no hair anymore. I'm a bald man. I shaved my head at six o'clock this morning because I was like, I'm gonna probably be on camera or get photos. I need to look presentable.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:14

It's weird that you like didn't do your pubes though, even though you knew you were gonna get naked.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:18

I know. Like, I mean, they're real it's super bushy.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:21

And I've gotta say, anyone that's a fan of collecting, as you know, pretty much anyone listening to this episode, tell us about your socials because yeah, man, you post some cool shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:32

It's currently on a private account at the moment because of my kids. Uh so I'm pretty selective who I tend to accept fun requests from. But I've been actively posting content about Star Wars and movies for the better part of 13, 14 years. Yeah. And it's Lockie underscore Skywalker 89, I think. Um but yeah, I just I love and cherish movies. I took my mum to see The Mandalorian and Grogu last Saturday.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:06

She's never seen the show, she just knows of Baby Yoda. Uh so and she loved it. And my fondest memory growing up, my dad would take us to the movies as well, but later on, my mum would be the one, because my dad was working a lot, mum would be the one to take us to movies. So, like, still being in year three, saw uh deep blue sea with my mum and having to explain to the teachers on Monday that I saw Deep Blue Sea and I watched a dude get eaten by a fucking shark. It's like I got in so much trouble, and my mum's like, they're fucking movies, chill out.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:43

That movie got me blocked on Twitter because when I first got Twitter, I just kept tweeting Thomas Jane about Deep Blue Sea.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:51

Oh, and he fucking blocked me.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:53

Well, I believe Because I would talk to him about the Punisher, because I believe I I love his Punisher movie better than the Ray Stevenson one. Amen. I agree 100% and rest in peace, Ray Stevenson.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:06

But that I like his better than John Barent Barentho, to be honest. Yeah, I just love Thomas Jane, like Boogie Nights, fucking Deep Blue Sea, the movie Thursday, which is a people sleep on that movie. He's so good. He's like if Aaron Eckhart didn't fucking suck.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:26

Aaron Eckhart has only done one good movie and it's Two Face.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:30

Yeah, yeah. Anytime I saw him on Coden O'Brien and he's like, I don't watch my own own movies. Anyone that says I can fuck off.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:37

I listen to my own podcasts.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:39

Dude, I'm all the downloads of the David Damager.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:43

Well, I make sure that I listen to them and make sure that we're putting out dope shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:48

Yeah, like I make playlists of my episodes and then just leave my phone on overnight doing four times speed, just giving me downloads. Not really, but I probably should. Lockie, thank you so much for joining me.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:02

Thank you for having me. I've ever since I met you and followed you on Instagram, I was like, I want to be a part of one of your shows. So this is a dream company. It was girls with tits, but it was also like I've never seen a collection like this. And it's, you know, I've always been one to I used to have a room that got turned into my daughter's room, and now my room is now slash kids slash office. Yeah. And it's slowly shrinking, and I live on a very small block, and I don't have a room for a shed. So if I ever win the lottery, I will be buying There'll be signs. I will yeah, I will have a room with a shed and all of my collection will go in it. Nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:47

Well, dude, thank you so much. Please come again. Fucking oath. If you have me, I'll be back. No, fuck that. This is the Davy Damage.