Episode 2 - Shannon Mowling

This week on TDDS, Dave teams up with Shannon Mowling of WOWFM’s High Fidelity for a deep dive into Adelaide bands, movies, and the albums that shaped him. Expect grunge icons, big opinions, and a celebration of an iconic Aussie surf-punk favourite.

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I want to start this episode off with a fucking enormous throbbing thank you to everyone who took the time to check out episode one, send me some great feedback, and of course, Ben Big Saxy Sax. He is an absolute star. And uh I know that like 99.7 of the downloads are thanks to him. So honestly, shout out to him. Everyone that took time to share it on social media, of course, as well. I saw Chris Fresh share it throughout his myriad of profiles. So thanks to the Geek Dudes. And uh yeah, it's just been absolutely fantastic the reception it's received. And we're only one episode in. And apologies to the few people that have messaged about the Patreon. All I can say is one day it's gonna be there. Uh I recorded a few of the episodes to release, and of course, didn't do any of the social media until the moment I uploaded the episode, at which point I realized that a lot of the socials there's a bit of a delay, so especially with Patreon. So at some point it'll be up there. There's already one episode raring to go of CD Saturdays. So just shout out and thanks to everyone. And of course, big shout out to Casey for sharing it on her social media. Uh didn't expect that because her social media is pretty much exclusively for Tim and Eric and also photos of her cats. So it was cool to get a run, especially right before she posted about the loss of her toilet. So R.I.P. to the toilet, because you think it not only had to deal with some of the worst crimes Casey committed, but also it also got neglected whenever Casey rather, you know, she'd go the Colesbag route instead. So shout out and thank you to everyone. Now, speaking of day's video graveyard, an important figure of DVG is joining me on this episode of Tities. That is right. WoW FM alumni Shannon Molling is joining us. He's from the show High Fidelity. Me and Shannon met at the WoW information night at some shitty little hole down in Samaphore. There was a lot of oldies there explaining about their show where they all play Fagal Sharky and lots of older classic hits, and they wondered what songs from the 60s and 70s were interested in playing. And uh yeah, it was quite an interesting night. And then Shannon also hosted when DVG finished on Wow FM, he was the host of the final ever episode. So I'm very grateful that he has followed me through my journey of stupid creative wastes of everyone's time. But it's awesome that he's joining me this week. Now, I'd also like to shout out to anyone that wishes to be a part of uh titties, make sure you send me a message, let me know you're interested. But um yeah, just don't be boring, is my only question, because I've had some fantastic guests already, and it's only gonna go up from here, hopefully. But I'm pretty sure we've peaked. Like if we can just face facts, uh, we're not gonna get much better than Ben Saxy Sachs. So um, before we get into this episode, of course, we've got to keep the lights on here at titties. So let's hear from this week's sponsor.

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This is the David Damage Show. It is a pleasure to be with you. Whatever you're doing, and we are joined this week by a very special guest. He has much history. The literal foundation bricks of DVG was built with Shannon by my side. We trained at the same time. We trained at the same time when I did Dave's video graveyard at WoW FM. And uh we've known each other for a long time. Shannon Mulling, how are you? I'm doing well.

SPEAKER_02 5:09

Um, I just want to start flipping because I host a radio show where I ask questions, so I'm not used to being on the other side of the desk and having questions asked. Can I just start asking you a question?

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Alright, let's hear it.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

How long did it take to come up with the lyrics to the theme song?

SPEAKER_01 5:23

That was a lot of work. It really was. The roaming scheme works. It was what it was. I had everything except the last word. And so I we were actually working in the city at a university. I wrote out all the lyrics except the last word. Yep. Midnight, this janitor just comes along the floor and he wrote in show. Yeah. And it was, it was, it was, it was nowhere but up from there, man. It just absolutely how good is it though? Oh, it's amazing. Yeah, it's great. And you know how much I love scar. Oh mate, it is it is a good time. I still love the idiom that it's uh the sound, uh, it's what kids feel when you get free like breadsticks.

SPEAKER_02 6:03

Yeah, the sound a 10-year-old boy's brain makes when he gets an ice cream.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

Yeah, that's exactly what scar is. And it's funny because I love I grew up like really looking down on like scar and reggae and stuff. And it's this weird thing. Turning 40, I wasn't prepared for liking the Smiths. I turned 40 and I was like, this is fucking great. Oh man, that's you're going the wrong way, though. It's like not just that, but there's so much ice house on my playlist. Yeah, right. I'm like, what is going on?

SPEAKER_02 6:34

I was wondering why you had the eyeliner and the fringe across your face. That's it, that's it.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

And I'm not talking great Southern land, I'm talking deep beakers. Yeah, wow. So for those that don't know, you host a very punk rock indie uh radio show here in Adelaide, South Australia. It is called High Fidelity and it airs out of Wow FM and Semaphore. Tell us all about it.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

Uh Sunday nights, 8 p.m. And basically it's now 100% local South Australian music. So I have a guest on in the first hour, have someone from a local band or a promoter or someone come in and chat. So we talk, they choose some local songs, and then the second hour is just new releases, which usually new releases for the week will usually fill the hour. Yep. And if not, just a bunch of songs I want to play. So it gets me out of the house, and I get to tea talk to people that are more interesting than me that I wouldn't normally get to talk to.

SPEAKER_01 7:24

And it's been incredible because obviously you started in July 2017, or was it June? No, June 2017.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

Yeah, yeah. I think at my show went to where the week after your show. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

And I remember like it's really incredible. You've you've created this destination for local bands where the bands that started out coming on your show are now like the lolas of the world and stuff. I'm not accrediting their success to you, but I'm saying they have grown and just got more and more successful. Yeah. And it's cool because they hold a special place because you're the destination that took a chance on them when they they didn't, you know, they hadn't some of these bands hadn't played gigs when they came on your show.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

Well, one of the things that I've always thought with the show is there was a big focus on emerging bands, partly because it's a community radio show and uh established bands aren't interested, but also the energy of an emerging band is so much more fun. And I occasionally I've had more established artists come in, and some of them just they don't want to be there.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

Well, not just that, from a marketing standpoint for yourself, yeah. A starting out band, particularly high school, yes, they're getting their family, they're getting their friends, and all their family and friends don't know that their band sucks yet. Yep. So they're willing to tune in. Whereas you be the veteran saying, Hey, I'm on the radio tonight, good for you.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

And if they don't listen in, uh WoW FM is not at any stage to have a listen again feature. So you're either listening at 8 p.m. on a Sunday or you're never gonna hear it.

SPEAKER_01 8:45

I do kind of miss that like WoW FM did have that out into the ether, and then that's it. Yeah, it's like it's gone. A good show is a good show, but it's like TV back in the 80s.

SPEAKER_02 8:54

If you don't watch it, you're never seeing it again.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

And that's incredible. I was um watching uh and big long form interview with Conan O'Brien where he was saying that so much of the television that had, not just the Johnny Carson Tonight show, but Conan O'Brien's show, yeah, that's all out in the ether and no one has copies of it. Yeah, a lot of it was bought back by NBC because some lady with OCD recorded every channel for like 30 years or something.

SPEAKER_02 9:21

So um the BBC used to just delete TV shows to make space so they could use the same tape. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

Well, and that's a thing I like because I've been like scrounging the the uh basement bins of VHS tapes in Broken Hill trying to find old ads. Yep. And I actually contacted someone that used to work at the TV station saying, Do you have some of this old gold? He goes, No, we would literally tape over everything, even important things like when the when the Queen came and visited in life, they just taped over it with new tape, like you know, that's tomorrow night's news tape now. Yeah, um, but yeah, high fidelity, it's really fantastic, and it's I like the way it's evolved, but also stay true to what you always did. Now, before we move on, I have to very quickly totally forgot to introduce my guest host, which is the fuck with neighbor dog. So shout out to him for all his contributions tonight. He's gonna uh keep us honest, he's gonna be fact-checking. Share his opinions. He's like Joe Rogan's uh Jamie. So I'm gonna say, hey dog, bring up that fucking, bring up that Illuminati video, please. Yeah. So you still loving it? Yeah, yeah, still enjoy it. Um so I know you I know you can't talk shit because you know you're a bit of a you know, you're uh neutral place, you're a very positive radio station. Without naming names, let's go numbers. Yeah. How many times have you had a band come on and it's just like, oh mate, you are so self-serious and so important.

SPEAKER_02 10:46

I've talked about this a bit and on there too. In the I've been doing the show for nine years. There's only one band that I wouldn't have back on. And I never tell people, but my son who knows it quite often in conversation with people who don't need to know will chime in and go, it's this band, isn't it? But yeah, I don't think they're even playing anymore. And they were I have two guesses. Yeah, well, there I think you might know because you may have potentially heard it as well. But it was a group of guys who were probably late 40s, early 50s that thought they were kiss and were dropping things about how when they're playing the wives don't matter.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

I've heard that was really I've heard that twice on your show. One was very like almost the Jared Leto core in the sense that, like, oh yeah, we're artists and we, you know, we've just got this creative flow. And it's like, fuck are you talking about? You play at the cranker on a Tuesday. What are you bragging about?

SPEAKER_02 11:36

But no, I'd I'd say of the entire time I've done it, only one would be a band that I wouldn't have on everyone else. I'd just be keen to come back. But my other big discovery in that time is getting to know a lot of the musicians and talking to them before and after the show and on the show, is that most really cool musicians that make great music they weren't cool in high school. Oh, absolutely. They didn't peak in high school, they definitely became more interesting afterwards.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

And it is funny, you think of like particularly like with a lot of modern rock stars as well. Like you look at the Alex Turners of the world from Arctic Monkeys and stuff, and it's like, you know, he would have been the biggest fucking loser at school, and now he's like this rock god.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

Yeah, because a number of the are like, oh yeah, we're special interest music students because I played the cello. Yeah. And now they're like rock stars and doing tours, and but that's most of them. Yeah, very few of them, I think, would have been the cool kid when they're in high school.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

But it is funny, it's like, oh, where did your band get together? And it's like, oh, we we're doing stage band. Cool. Yeah. Nah, that's really awesome. Um who would you say you know, it's time to name drop.

SPEAKER_02 12:44

Not playing favourites, but who were your favourites? Oh, look, there's there's multiple. I always think Jong go bones and the barefoot bandits are one of my favourite bands to watch play live and are just the nicest guys. Lola uh have been a long time favourite, they're amazing. They've done a lot to help my son's band out. Handouts, if you're looking for something to listen to, they've got to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

How is um how is your son's band? Yeah, they're it's the Nepo babies, is that yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_02 13:08

Um Handouts. Yeah, they've just released their first single, uh Riddlein', which is not spelt the right way because they thought it was pretty punk to be like no effects and spell it the wrong way and also not get sued. Uh they've got a launch gig coming up, which they've organized themselves because they're teenagers and they don't want advice from anyone. Yep. Uh but yeah, they're they're pretty stoked with it. So they're doing they're doing good jobs. One of the other guests I absolutely love having on, uh, and my show is definitely a 100% country music free zone, but Brad Chicken and the Bootstraps are just the best country music band and fantastic to see live and insanely fun in the studio.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

That sounds like a band that would play in the basement from Pulp Fiction.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

Oh, gotta be honest. And and uh they would have the gimp going, oh that's a bit wrong. Because they, yeah, they're amazing. One of the best things about seeing them play live, and they're playing on some pretty big stages now, is watching the audience because probably when they start playing, about three-quarters of the audience aren't in on the joke. Yep. And you slowly start seeing people go, Oh, they're not being serious. And they're so almost that beards effect, yeah. But way more offensive than the beards. Um, they did a fringe show, and I've never heard so many references to bodily fluids come from a band. Um but they're amazing, and it's not one of the things too is they're not making fun of country music though, they're making jokes around it. But if you were into country, I don't think they're massively into country anyway, but if you were into country, you could still enjoy it without feeling like these guys are disrespecting me. Yeah. That's my it's my job to disrespect country music. Nice.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

Well, I'm glad the show's going awesomely. Where can people check out everything you have got going on?

SPEAKER_02 14:42

Everything is 8 p.m. Sundays on 100.5 Wow FM and there's no other way to listen. How do you follow the socials? At WOW FM Hi-Fi, H I F I. It's only Instagram because I'm too old for TikTok and Facebook is dead. Do you get the VIP treatment when you go to local gigs, surely? No, because generally uh I don't have my face on anything. So unless someone's come to the show and met me, they pretty much don't know who I am. So I get to say hello to some of the bands. And um that's it. Nice. But it is nice to go to a gig and have someone to talk to instead of just standing in the back on my own looking at my phone in between sets.

SPEAKER_01 15:17

So you're not you're not doing the uh the SPOS thing where it's like, this isn't a band gig, this is a SPODS gig, a SPOS gig. There just happens to be bands here. Yeah, and remember, this is my front row, so move out of the way. If you don't like halitosis, this is not the place to be. Alright, let's get to know a little bit about Shannon. If you had a MySpace profile, what would your profile song be? And don't say your son's banned.

SPEAKER_02 15:40

No, um it would be all out of angst by No FX. Nice. Which, as I mentioned, I'm not a big fan of Scar, and that's probably one of their scariest songs. But yeah, definitely. I mean, back in the old telephone days of ringtones and buttons on telephones. Yes, I remember sitting there for ages to work out how to program that to play from my phone, and I think it's just a perfect one to have on MySpace. Nice.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

I remember doing the exact thing for the final countdown. Oh, yeah, and then losing the bit of paper that had the thing and accidentally deleting like the last three notes. So spending months, there's 99 combinations, and I could not find them. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 16:21

How much time we spent on ringtones, and now if you find it. Not just time, money. Yeah, yeah. And if your phone makes a noise now, it's like the most embarrassing thing in the world.

SPEAKER_01 16:29

Well, that's like one of my playlists at work the other day played the Ninja Turtles scene, like the cover by Punk Rock Factory. Oh, yeah. And someone's like, fuck, I haven't heard this for years. I'm like, oh, it's my ringtone, and then stop because I'm like, I haven't had my phone off silence since since DVG started, basically. Back on yeah. Alright, who plays you in a movie of your life?

SPEAKER_02 16:49

Uh, I think if it's me now, William H. Macy. Probably just as your standard old guy in the background that's definitely not.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

It's funny, William H. Macy, as much as he's an amazing character actor, is one of those people that I had him burn into my mind from Boogie Nights. Yep, particularly the ending of Boogie Nights. So even to this day, like you'll pop up winning awards for like all this amazing stuff. And I'm like, oh, you're the guy from Boogie Nights that did that thing.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

I just see him as your standard like dad character, yeah. Just the background. Because Brad Pitt's not playing me in a movie.

SPEAKER_01 17:24

You never know, he's got pretty pretentious. He's got a range, yeah. What posters were on your bedroom wall as a kid?

SPEAKER_02 17:31

I was thinking about that because I was trying to think back, but mine were all pretty boring. I think it was basically cars. Right. Probably too embarrassed to have girls at that age.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

We talked about that with Ben. Yeah. Um, I thought it was I felt uncomfortable and felt kind of gay if I had posters of girls on the wall, which is in hindsight.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

I think mine, it wasn't that I was they'd be worried that I was gay, but it was that thing of I don't want people to know I like girls. That would be embarrassing.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

Yeah, like I'd told last week, I had to swap a poster of Shawn Michaels for a poster of Sable, just because I don't think I'd be allowed to keep living at the house in my life.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

Because when you're a kid, you always had that uncle or friend of your dad's that would go, You got a girlfriend yet? And you never knew how to answer it. And it would always make you feel terrible.

SPEAKER_01 18:10

It is funny because obviously you've seen the the T Double D S, the Tiddy's library. Yeah. And um, yeah, I remember the kid that lived over the back from us, his dad had like those velvet paintings of like people fucking. Yep. And it was in the lounder. It was the most horrific sexual thing, and it's just like, what the fuck is this? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:32

No, I I used to have a lot of posters of cars because basically on the walk to school, little country town, I would walk past the Holden dealership. Yep. And a mate and I realized that if you just went in and said, got any stickers? Got any posters, they would give you them.

SPEAKER_01 18:45

Thinking you're a fancy.

SPEAKER_02 18:46

Yeah. They must have gotten sick of us because probably twice a week we would walk in and go, Do you have any posters? Do you have any stickers? And they'd just load us up with merch and we'd go to school with it, and it'd get crumpled up at school, and then we'd get home and stick it on the wall. You could be the king of Davron Park if you still have a mm. Yeah, yeah. Uh I it's amazing I still don't have a mullet.

SPEAKER_01 19:06

What's the very first concert you ever went to?

SPEAKER_02 19:08

Uh it was U2 and BB King at Memorial Drive in like 1989. Sweet.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

So literally everything else on earth was busy that night.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

I I knew you would not be impressed with that. I was a big U2 fan as a kid, partly because my one of my really good mates, older sisters, was very much into them, and I was very much into her. So massive crush on her, so it's like what the stuff she likes, I think I'm gonna like too.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

You know what? You've just described my love of Deft Tones. I was uh I was a very happy limp biscuit fan, and the sexy goth girl was into Deft Tones, and all of a sudden, yeah, I was buying Deft Tones up. Um if you could time travel to anywhere and any time, yeah, where are you going? Where are you living?

SPEAKER_02 19:53

Well, I was trying to think I would probably go back to when Bitcoin was first released and pick up a bunch for a couple of dollars. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Otherwise, but then you've got some terrible music to listen to in 2005.

SPEAKER_02 20:05

That's true. But I had to listen to it the first time around. Yeah, true. Uh yeah, I love how many times are you gonna listen to four to the floor with your Bitcoin while you wait for it to inflate? Yeah. Uh other than that, I don't know. Like most of the rest of history sucks. Yeah, it's not that great now, but there's also pretty terrible times back.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

And it's like for as much as I love nostalgia and it seems that I tint all past times with rose coloured glasses, it's not the case. Yeah, like I love people like, oh shit like this didn't happen when we were kids. Yeah. And it's like, or the ones like, oh, kid, people didn't have autism in my day. It's yeah, you did. Yep. You put these poor kids in the same class as the kids that didn't speak English, and that was it. Or they'd go and help the photocopy of room lady. Like that's all it was out of sight, out of mind. The great one is your kids didn't have peanut allergies, they didn't survive.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

That's why they weren't around. You know why? Because survival of the fit. Because you gave them peanut. But you know, you look at things like, oh, you know, I'd go back to Berlin when Bowie and Iggy Pop were there, I'd go to Seattle when Nirvana and Soundgarten were big, but you'd be a nerd that wouldn't be cool enough to do any of that anyway.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

It is funny though, like I always think like, oh, if I had this back then, it's like, no, then I'm just a fat loser with that thing that I have now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:21

So yeah, I don't know. It's uh just something that could make money that I could retire now.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Absolutely. Yeah. I'm a me and you both. What's the first format you remember buying music in? Now, because you are an old man, I'm guessing it's a gramophone or well, I still have it.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

Uh, and it's I'm I'm still I still think it's really cool. It was it's a lagophone. It was a record of Neil's heavy concept album, which was from the young ones. I run in from the young ones. So it's basically Neil from the Young Ones. He does covers of like Pink Floyd songs and Hole in My Shoe, which was a singer. Yes, and in between the songs, yeah, he talks and just you you can tell not a lot of effort was put into it. Uh huh. Was just we're big, let's make some money on it.

SPEAKER_01 22:02

Where would you rank that on that CD you gave me from aggro?

SPEAKER_02 22:05

Um, I would put it above aggro. Really? Yeah, because I think it's still got some jokes you could listen to more than once. And I've still got it, and it uh I put it on a couple of years back. It doesn't even have scratches. Nice. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

And is that because it's like just a like an old-fashioned bit of metal that spins around in a piano? Old wax, yeah. Um, what's your death row meal?

SPEAKER_02 22:28

Uh death row meal. Uh I was thinking about that and it was a toss-up between two. Let's have them both. But then I remembered because uh I know you hate this sort of food, but uh like barbecue baby back ribs. Right. Amazing.

SPEAKER_01 22:41

I just can't eat meat of bone. Yeah. Each to its own.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

You're weird. Um or pizza. And then I remembered Big Shed, which rest in peace. Uh-huh. Uh their three little pigs pizza was a pizza with a rack of ribs on top. So I'd go for that. And then a drink with it would be uh peanut butter stout, which is like liquid Reese's pieces. Yeah. Um it's amazing, like a peanut butter cup in liquid form, which is so good. Uh side of um some chicken wings, yeah. Uh like Korean fried chicken wings, and um dessert would be a leased chocolate mud cake, I reckon.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

Oh, the unbeatable. I think side by side in the pillars of sweet society, you've got the mud cake and vionetta's right next to you. Yeah. Were you a vionetta? Even though it was a very expensive and very fancy.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

Yeah, yeah. Um, but both of them uh it's amazing that vionettas aren't expensive. They're pretty cheap. But a mud cake and a vionetta, if you go to someone's house and you have to bring something, you take either of those, and people might go, look what he bought.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

But that's the first thing people are going to do. It is funny with Anita and Ollie being celiac and not being able to eat gluten. I think the big of all the things, like everything they've had to give up, all the sacrifice they've had to make, which I haven't, believe it or not, that fucking woolly's mother is torture to them.

SPEAKER_02 24:05

Yeah, well, my birthday was on Mother's Day.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

And so happy birthday for last week. This week.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

And so my family didn't get a cake for me because I'm kind of avoiding that. Pretty much. That was what it was written in the birthday card, actually. But that was from your parents. Yes. I went to Woolies to get one uh like later in the day, and I reckon every annoying little kid bought one for their mum because there was only the caramel, there was only a caramel one left.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

Well, I'm gonna ask you to bite your fucking tongue because it belongs there.

SPEAKER_02 24:35

Well, I was gonna say, I bought the caramel one. Chocolate, caramel, then vanilla. Because caramel was better than no cake at all, and it wasn't bad.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

It is it is the be-all end all to me. It is really you're right at the top of the tippy top. Wow. Look at me. Like I'm gonna be no send it away. You've outed yourself as a freak twice, Dave. I have. All right. Um, speaking of junk food, you go to a nostalgic corner shop stocked with every snack you've ever seen. Yeah, you've got enough money to get a drink, an ice cream, and a snack. What are you getting?

SPEAKER_02 25:08

All right, proper back in the day, I'm getting a 50 cent packet of mixed lollies where I get to go one of those. 50 cents? That lasts you a month. Yeah, yeah. One of those, two of those, four of those, one of those. And that was my that's how I spent my pocket money as a kid. And oh, just the best way to do it to annoy the person by going, oh, and go back to having another one of those.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

And while we're doing cool Uncle Corner, yeah, yeah. This just brings me back to the minimum of chips. Yes, yeah. The minimum of chips used to be the maximum of chips. Yeah, you couldn't finish the minimum of chips. Yeah, I can finish the minimum minimum of chips on the drive home before we get home.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

Yeah, where it used to be a massive bag. Yeah. So it was a pillow. Yeah. I'd go uh a 50 cent bag of mixed lollies. Uh the drink would be a chocolate milkshake, which I wouldn't do now. Because if I have a chocolate milkshake now, uh in about 40 minutes, if I'm not right next to a toilet, it's a bit of a lactose problem. Yeah, only it only seems to be milkshakes, but yeah, I won't I I've learned not to order a chocolate milkshake this time.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

The greatest sin that a business can commit, and I hope they burn down and die in a fire. If they serve that milkshake anything other than cold. Yeah. A room temperature milkshake, fucking you can stick that right up your dick hole.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

But also, I don't want to get massively sticky hands if I touch the glass. And the one that they're sticking crap to the outside of the glass, please don't do it.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

Let's put them on blast. Fucking Milky Lane in the city, right? They trickle the decoration around the outside of the glass. Yeah, don't do it. How the fuck am I supposed to pick it up? It weighs 400 pounds in your parlor glass. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Or the there's a milkshake that's the trickle, but also um hundreds and thousands. Yep. And I'm like, I clearly have sensory issues because I'm not fucking touching that.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

A milkshake with sand. And then ice cream, I have to give a shout-out to my wife because as soon as she mentioned it, it's like, yep, that's it. Uh chocolate snip. Chocolate snip. You know the like triangular one? They cut that and it was the chocolate sunny boy. Yeah, chocolate sunny boy. Fuck! If you were lucky enough at school I want one! Yeah, you if you were lucky enough at school, that'd frozen, melted, and refrozen so you had that big layer of chocolate along the bottom.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

But you also, it was just enough for the spoon to make into iced shavings, basically. And you can still taste the powder. I am getting a pure milk tomorrow from forcing this. I'm putting it upside down so there's still a bit of a triangle going on. Yeah. I've never missed anything as much as you've just I've got dead relatives that I don't miss as much as a snip. Wow, great answer. They're good, they're good. What? And what was your snack? Uh the snack was a 50 cent bag of it. That's right, the lollies, which was everything. Yep. Oh. There's a current um pandemic going through the sugar world, which is affecting me heavily. Yeah. You're putting your black cats in with your black currant jelly babies. Oh no. And you can't tell what's what. And it's it's a it's a game of bit a bean boozle that I'm not interested in playing. No, if you want those black stuff, you'd get it. Have licorice, you fucking lose that. Stop ruining everyone else's mixed bag. Kids don't want licorice flavoured anything. No, no. It's like you wash it down with a class of fisherman's friend. Fuck off. Stars for right. Um, I know that you have uh both and I have you and I have shared an affinity with our love of the Tony Hawks franchise video games. Yeah. You are somewhat of an old school gamer. What is your timeline of consoles and what were the standout games for you? Uh so it started with the Commodore 64 and just played it to death. Dad was it the cassette tape one or the disc?

SPEAKER_02 28:48

No, it was the disc one, and dad like got it from a friend at work, and it came with a box of basically a hundred pirated games. So basically every game we'd ever want to play was already there for us. So it was never I want this game, it's just let's grab another disc and see what's on there. And so that was great because it was like California Games Moon Buggy. Oh, California Games is an absolute classic. Yeah, so that was that was gem. Then uh the Master System and the Mega Drive, both of those. Uh so Alex Kid? Uh I didn't play that one as much, but definitely Sonic was just trying to get through it when you only had three lives, and just doing that pinball level over and over again so you could get a hundred rings and more lives each time.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

I always think about how you'd do that thing where you'd start playing Sonic and you're like, I'm gonna get every ring, I'm gonna take it easy, I'm gonna think, and then you die somewhere stupid. Yep. But then you'd get that not a rage quit, but you do the thing where you just run and jump and you'd clear the stage, you're like, what happened? How did this how did this happen?

SPEAKER_02 29:48

And then had basically every Sony console. Yep. Um and then Did you have it chipped? Did you have the PS1 chipped or you had money? The PS1 was actually I was living in Japan for a year, and so as a this was part of your sex tourism thing you were saying about? Uh franchises. That's how I make my money. Um, but we had we had one there, it was like the apartments one, and one of my video gaming claim to fames is a mate that shared the apartment with me and I beat Biohazard Resident Evil 1 in Japanese without being able to read Japanese. Just by making it. How would you do the keys or something? It was basically by linking colours and going, that's written in blue, and that's written in blue. And then anytime we had a friend visit that spoke Japanese, it's like, come here, come here, sit out. We're just gonna get to this spot and tell us what this word says and what we need to find. And it took us months. There's like an old episode of Old Enough where you just go out and then grab a kid, bring him in and say, What's that say? The errand is solved resident evil for us. Put him back out, and then the Metal Gear Solid was mind-blowing as a game after playing just platformers to play something like that was phenomenal. And then the standards for PS2, 3, 4, 5, Tony Hawk games. Yep. Just Grand Theft Auders. I lost interest in them because it's just that stuff where you just get sick of driving to get to places. Yeah. So uh Vice City I played a lot, but especially GTA 5, I just lost interest.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

I think one of the old games that still holds a big spot in my heart that I can revisit because I love I don't live the life that a current gamer has to have. I don't have that kind of free time. Yeah, there's nothing else I'd do in life if I got into it. I said the other week the last thing I completed was Mortal Kombat 9, Mortal Kombat 1, like the reboot. Yep. Streets of Rage 2 still gets a constant run because you know what? I can absolutely kill the game and I'm doing amazing. Yep. Then I can rage quit, not play it again for a year, and I pick right back up from the start.

SPEAKER_02 31:45

Yeah, I 100% think video games need to understand their audience. And when you can choose the level of difficulty, like novice and whatever, it shouldn't say novice, it should say dad.

SPEAKER_00 31:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:55

Because it's just I like a challenging video game, but I don't have time to try and battle the same boss 50 times anymore.

SPEAKER_00 32:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:02

But I still want to experience the video game, so just give it to me on easy so I can just be overpowered, feel good about myself, and beat all of these bosses the first time I see them.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

It's I think the games that have held my like interest as an older guy is like fucking, you know, your red deads, where it's like, you know what, I'm gonna see what happens when I leave a horse on the train track. Like things like that. That's yeah, yeah. And then it's not even playing the game. I think mine's like 3% complete.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

Yeah, those games are good, but then you think about like I want to relax and not go out in the garden and do stuff, and then you play a game where you're chopping wood and brushing oars. It's like duding a fish.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Like, this is why I'm at what I'm a guy I used to work with was fucking obsessed with the um the simulator of pressure washing. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:44

Like the house looks like shit. Yeah, yeah. Why don't you buy a pressure wash? That's the thing. You could make a you could make a career out of that game.

SPEAKER_01 32:50

Yeah, do it in real life, they let you do it. Alright, uh, what's the best gift you ever received in your life? Okay, and don't say kids, because no one gives a shit about that.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

It's a couple of steps, this one, because I reckon when I was about seven or eight, my parents got me a remote control car, and it was the sort of remote controlled car as a kid that had the cord attached to it. Oh, so you had to walk around. You had to be with it. Nothing wrong with that. Oh no, it sucked. Uh, and so I was a president I'm unwrapping it, and even then at like seven or eight, you know you have to pretend you really like it because your parents got it for you, and basically it didn't make it past Christmas Day, it wasn't working, so it was okay. Well, we're gonna take it back. So uh living in Country Town, had to drive to Adelaide, go to the store where we were buying it, and they basically said, Okay, we can refund it, and it will be this much. And mum and dad said, Did you want to grab another one? I was like, Oh, all right, well, it costs this much, go and find something of that value, and that as a kid, that's like dream stuff. What did you say? Yeah, the uh G1 Optimus Prime. Fuck yes, still at the trailer, yeah, yeah, it's still at my parents' place. Everything's missing from it, and it's doesn't matter, that means it was loved, trashed, but yeah, that uh first generation Optimus Prime toy with and the trailer had the little buggy that came out of it and the antenna that spun.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

And I remember being a dumb kid as and going to Toy World. I had some money, I had $15, which was a thousand dollars back then, and they had this remote controlled little tank, an army tank. I couldn't buy it quick enough, get home, open it. It's flat-packed metal model to build, but it was electronic. Gave it to my cousin. I reckon I probably got it just after like a 10th birthday. My cousin finished building it around my 12th birthday. I got it, it had a two-meter cord like yours, but because it had obviously been um cable tied or whatever in the bag, it had a kink constantly. Yeah, so it was so light that it would get tangled in the cord. So I played with it all the time with my G.O. Joe's, and then I remember tangling it up. Dad gave it to my cousin and said, Can you fix it again? Because he was a sparky. Get it back, and the chord's this long. Yeah. So I couldn't even stand to play it. So you just gave me like a vivid memory. Yeah, um, you get to pick one film and one song for the entire world to enjoy. Okay. Using this power. I'm using it the bad way because one thing, there's nothing worse than so roll listening to Strawberry Kisses, that exactly.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

There's nothing worse than like really getting into something a lot, and suddenly it becomes really popular, and it's like, oh god, I can't like it. Um so the the what I'm getting people to watch, I'm almost getting the whole world to watch this so you watch it, because I'm pretty sure I recommended it to you. And I know when I recommend something to you, you're gonna nod and say, You know there's no list, and you're never gonna look at it again. Um, but I would make the entire world watch Michael Bolton's Big Sexy Valentine's Twitter. I have watched yet. You have watched it? Yes, it's incredible. I watched it again after uh not seeing it for a long time, and it still cracked me up.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

I there I've I've told you before that heaps of effort for a little bit of payoff with comedy is just this next level Andy Kaufman-esque performance art.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

But Michael Bolton's performance in it is amazing because it's almost like he he plays it like he's not in on the joke and does it so perfectly. But there's one moment in it that I noticed where Eric Andre drops to his knees and does the little tickle, and you can see Bolton break. There's just this little crack of a smile, and it's the only time in the entire thing that he breaks. But I just think it's great to sit next to someone who doesn't appreciate that humour and watch it and go, What the hell is this? And it's it's so wrong that more people need to need to see it. It just there's always nothing like Fred Armison to ruin a sketch, though. Oh, he does it so well, yeah. And like um Tim Robinson's bit is basically just completely, I think you should leave a couple of years before he did it. I I won't have a bad thing ever said about his comedy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's exactly you could just take that and drop it into the next season, and everyone would think he just wrote it because his part in it is phenomenal. And Andy Sandberg as Kenny G. Oh, Randall Park's song, it's amazing. So people should watch that because it's it's just and what are we all listening to? So bad it's good. Um that was the tough one. Um bad, but but bad in being good. Every Christmas we play uh guy called Joseph Spencer's Santa Claus is coming to town. He's like this Jamaican blues guy from about the 50s. And I think the story is they would play him a song, he would listen to it, and then he would play it his way.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

That sounds like that fucking usually that guy that played the song for Sting, like at the rock and roll hall. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:45

So I'm imagining but it's basically just he rambles and it's like grunts and groans and a guitar not being played very well, and it's sounds like some Wesley Willis style. Yeah, it's amazing. So every Christmas my son and I play that song and just giggle and laugh, and it's amazing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:04

If there was a Goosebumps book about your biggest fear, what is it called?

SPEAKER_02 38:09

Uh yeah, spiders. Yeah, spiders. Yeah, I I've gotten much better at it, but I would rather not be in a room with a huntsman. That's all right. So that or observation platform from touring and doing a bit of family trips. My family like to go to the top of the tallest building and have a look at what things look like from up there. I'd rather not. Yep. And most of them you have to pay like 60 bucks to feel absolutely awful.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

Yeah. Yeah. For your toes to to like cramp up in your shoe.

SPEAKER_02 38:41

I don't like this. Why am I here? So yeah, I don't go up there now. I go and find something more interesting to do.

SPEAKER_01 38:46

In your phone right now, how many unread text and messages? Uh unread emails and messages do you have? None.

SPEAKER_02 38:53

Uh no one texts or emails me. I don't have any. Uh yeah, basically, there work ones which I just delete and delete and delete. I uh I don't have a lot of love for AI like most people, but the AI summary of my emails from work, so I don't have to read the whole thing is a game changer.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

The AI summary of advertiser um articles that I'm not paying for.

SPEAKER_02 39:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:16

And it's like people are commenting the fact that it's like, yeah, suck it with your clickbait.

SPEAKER_02 39:21

Yeah, so yeah, my phone is just if if it comes through from the show, I'm gonna read it anyway for that dopamine hit of somebody likes me. And the rest is just nothing sends me notifications. So zero on everything, Dave. Favourite store growing up? Uh favourite store growing up. I would say as a teenager and early 20s big star on McGill Road selling CDs, and I spent way too much money there. But that was just great because it was dusty. It's exactly the same at the moment. Like you go in and the same amount of dust is.

SPEAKER_01 39:53

No, they painted the tiles at the front red the other day.

SPEAKER_02 39:56

Well, they did move some of the stuff, but it's still got the same smell. And uh, so yeah, and then as a kid, the uh deli at Yankalilla up the road from where I lived because they sold 50 cent bags of mixed lollies and the guy that ran it would let you sometimes go behind the counter and serve yourself.

SPEAKER_01 40:11

Yeah, and he used to be whether that sentence was gonna end.

SPEAKER_02 40:14

Yeah, yeah. He used to be a cop, so he's like proper scary, and you'd go and you'd very carefully make sure it was exactly 50 cents, and then he'd go, hang on a second, that doesn't look right. And every time I'd shit myself, go, oh no, oh no. I need to put more in. You need more, and you go, Oh, that's I feel so relieved.

SPEAKER_01 40:31

Um, and because you're so old, they're all bald boiled lollies and humbugs and musk stick, Worthers originals. Um, choose one celebrity as your spouse.

SPEAKER_02 40:43

It's similar to going back in time. I don't I wouldn't inflict that on a celebrity guy. I I would feel like the entire relationship I would just have to sit there going, I'm really sorry. I always thought it amazing.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

Um, a good friend of the show, Chris Fresh. I remember the old podcast. There was a question about this kind of thing. Yeah. And he cock blocked himself in his own You're setting the rules. It's totally Guess what?

SPEAKER_02 41:07

The celebrity's not actually going to marry you when you answer the question. Because like episode one when you and Ben were talking about Scarlett Johansson, like, yeah, but the whole time I'll be just going, sorry. Sorry, Scarlett. Because he's like, I have nothing in common with you, and we're now married. And it's wish fulfillment. Wish fulfillment, yeah. Uh and recommend one podcast.

SPEAKER_01 41:32

Or did you have an answer? Uh no, I'm too old, it would just seem creepy. Recommend one podcast.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

Uh okay, it's it's not being made anymore. It's from like 2019. Um, but it's one I've probably listened to two or three times each episode. Uh Blad on the Tracks. It's the dude he now hosts Countdown, like the UK non-funny version of 8 out of 10 Cats Does Countdown. But he does it pretty well. Um, and basically he just gets four people in for that have no connection, like a musician, uh politician, uh sports person. And it's basically just choosing songs. So it's like, okay, you have to pick the best song to play on a beach at midnight. Yeah. And they each play their songs. And the host doesn't hold back on whether he thinks the song is shit or not. He'll go, no, that's rubbish. Your taste in music is terrible. But everyone basically tells stories about the songs that they're playing. And you basically listen to four people become friends. Yeah. And you know that at the end of this episode, there's suddenly going to be like a group chat on WhatsApp from those fill four people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's that thing of getting people in a room and saying, let's just talk about music and movies. Yeah. And they have a brilliant round where, because this is 2019, so not as much of Spotify, but you have to just put your music app on or your phone on shuffle and push play, and then they judge what song comes up from the shuffle. So yeah, it's just one that I picked up a lot of good music from it, like hearing people say this song or this band and stuff you wouldn't normally hear, and then it's just yeah, cool to hear people hanging out, enjoying talking about music.

SPEAKER_01 43:12

So I remember back before the streaming services, and I just wanted I I couldn't get enough music. I used to, there was um all posters.com and it was pretty much every gig poster ever. Yeah. I'd find bands I loved, and I'd look for like, you know, the first couple years I were active, find their gig posters, and look at who's supported and get into it that way. Yeah. And found some incredible bands and a lot of crossover where you're like, oh, you know, a band that opened up for this band also opened up for that band, but never went much further than that. Radio, so we got you to make a list of five favorite movies, five favorite albums. Yes. Of course, I know that you are one of those people that your list changes daily.

SPEAKER_02 43:53

Well, basically, a while back out of nowhere, you just sent a message saying choose top five movies and top five. Films. And so it was that thing of I could have spent hours and hours going, okay, what's like the five greatest ones, and this is going to reflect I'm picturing you with a Bunsen down. This is gonna reflect my taste, and I'm gonna have to live by this. And then went, nope, I'm just gonna write down right now five albums that I know I love, and I would sit down and listen to right now and five films that I know I love and will sit and listen to right now. And looking at the list, there are far better albums and there's far better films, and there are just classics. But I stand by these choices as if I had to watch a film or listen to an album and enjoy it, then these five are on there. There's no, oh I've got to pick the Godfather.

SPEAKER_01 44:43

It's the stuff you're gonna watch or listen to when no one else is around.

SPEAKER_02 44:47

Yeah, so there's no pretentiousness of I want to sound like I'm intelligent or that I've got this great understanding of film history.

SPEAKER_01 44:54

You didn't take a leaf out of the old school DVG girls and like oh John Wick, everything that's uh currently trending on Netflix.

SPEAKER_02 45:01

This amazing scene where the camera follows them into the kitchen through the restaurant, it's all a one-shot. So I was basically just, yeah, what can I think of right now that I would enjoy? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

And so, yeah, there's probably ones I would change now, but I'm I'm happy to stick by what I've picked. Let's start out in 1984. We are looking at a comedy movie. It was the first film role ever for Val Filmer. As we talk about one of the greatest comedies that I would comfortably say, even though this is a cult classic, yeah, this is such an underrated, it doesn't get mentioned in the likes of Airplane and you know Naked Gun. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:38

It definitely deserves its spot though. Well, one of the other things I will say with my list too is it wasn't necessarily intentional, but I did I was quite happy that these aren't films that have been mentioned lots and lots of times on DVG because I've pretty much heard it. Well, this isn't DVG, fuck us. I know, I know, but uh I like your old stuff better than your new stuff. Nice, nice, you and everyone else. But uh basically, yeah, it was nice to go. Hey, these are films that you probably haven't talked about to death anyway, and there's nothing really Did we mention that it was top secret? No, we didn't. Okay, but people should know the movie is top secret. How do you not know that?

SPEAKER_01 46:14

And uh I mean There are so many clever scenes. Oh like uh and this is just gonna turn into us mentioning scenes, but honestly, it's one of those things. There is so many sight gags. Um, there is one I love, which is because it's basically a real espionar espionage World War I like um well it's World War I, but it's set in the 50s with rock and roll, and suddenly it's in the old west and it takes so many of the tropes of all those old movies and just turns them on the head in but in very like not as much as I love scary movie. We're not talking like the scary movie kind of approach, but at the same time, the cleverness of the way that they've done some of this stuff is absolutely like there is a sight gag where he gets on a train and it's gonna leave and the train pulls out, but then you realise that the station with the train and the station painting the blurred scenery that's going past as well.

SPEAKER_02 47:09

It's amazing, and just it's another one the effort that goes into some of the jokes, like the book set the bookshop scene where it's all backwards, and at the start they try and make it kind of subtle, and by the end of it, it's just this is so obvious that we've filmed it backwards.

SPEAKER_01 47:23

There is a fight that starts on top of a train and they fall off into a lake, and the fight continues, but they're like they're sinking together, and it's like one of those real tense, like old James Bond scenes with two people fighting. They get to the bottom of the pond and it's an old-timey cowboy saloon, it's the at which point a brawl breaks out underwater, and it's done practically because it was of like '84, and it is so fucking funny. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

Um, and just so many lines, because this was the film that when I was a kid, just that early teenage years when you hadn't quite discovered girls and going out, but everyone just got together to watch movies. Yeah. And pretty much every week we would rent this and watch it.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

Well, because being of a younger generation, we did the revisiting thing because you know, we're like, oh, we can only watch American Pie so many times. Let's watch all these other comedy. I still remember sitting in my bedroom, there's about six of us, watching Top Secret for the first time. Yep. There's a scene where they're in a shootout and someone throws a grenade in the room. Yep, a guy decides to sacrifice himself, he jumps on the grenade, and literally everyone else in the building blows up except him.

SPEAKER_02 48:31

Comedy goal.

SPEAKER_01 48:32

Yep, and the number of lines that have become part of my life, they're like, I know a little German, he's sitting over there, and it's just um even the song like because the opening song, like Val Kilmer plays a rock star akin to like Elvis, but they they pay out like the Elvis movies of like all the surfing and stuff, and so it's like, is it shooting and surfing?

SPEAKER_02 48:51

Skeet skeet surfing, skeet surfing, yeah. And yeah, and whenever he's kissing, the fireplace turns up, so they're kissing parachuting and the uh and it's a film that you can re-watch because no matter how many times you've seen it, you'll find a new joke.

SPEAKER_01 49:06

And it is, but it is one of those things where like jokes per minute is just insane, and a lot of them are visual, and you don't pick up on them. I love there's a very um, you know, like um bloody Citizen Kane establishing shot of a telephone, and there's a board thing, and it it's in the foreground, and the no, sorry, yeah, it's right up near the camera, and then back in the background is the the all the German um soldiers, and the phone rings, and he walks across, and you're expecting because you know it's this giant palatial room, but he walks over and the phone's fucking enormous because it's like it's still the best one where in that line is one of the better lines in the film, too, where he's talking to the hospital and he goes, Let me know if there's any change in his condition, hangs up and goes, He's dead.

SPEAKER_02 49:48

Yeah, and just they're they're unapologetically just throwing jokes and going, you know what? If one in ten hits, we're gonna still have lots of laughs.

SPEAKER_01 49:59

I personally think it's better than airplane flying high.

SPEAKER_02 50:02

It's it's amazing. It doesn't have the boobs of airplane, no, but it is just hilariously funny. Boobs was a measurement, but totally different. Yeah, but I I just still think it is an incredibly funny film.

SPEAKER_01 50:14

1980 is the next year. We are talking about a film from John Landis starring John Belushi, Dan Aykroyd. It is a musical comedy that made was made for $27 million, went on to make five times its budget, features some absolute powerhouse.

SPEAKER_02 50:29

Also, uh legitimately as well, I've mentioned that that budget includes a cocaine budget. Oh, right.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

Cocaine was written into the budget for this film, Dave. We are talking about the Blues Brothers. Why does this movie Oh sorry, I misread Blues Brothers 2000. Why have you chosen that film?

SPEAKER_02 50:46

They just improved on every aspect of the original. You know what held back the first one?

SPEAKER_01 50:51

Belushi.

SPEAKER_02 50:51

Yeah. So I'm so glad that dead weight. Um, another film as a kid I just watched over and over and over again because it was one we had on VHS. And when you're like 8, 9, 10, it's edgy enough to feel like you're doing something slightly naughty watching it, but it's still fairly safe for you to watch. Well, that was even though realizing as an old it was naughty, that was police academies for me. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, but just such an enjoyable film in that there is so much going on, you've got Nazis chasing after them, country guys chasing after them, the car scenes with the crashes. It's one of the few films that has music in it where I don't feel like just skipping through the music.

SPEAKER_01 51:32

This is one of those movies I watched a lot as a child, and it wasn't until I was an adult I realised that when they go to the the Bondsman office with Steven Spielberg, yeah, it's fucking insane.

SPEAKER_02 51:42

Yeah, and there's just the the musical artists that are in it. When I watched as a kid didn't know any of them, and then later on you go, Oh, that was John Lee Hooker, yeah, James Brown, Aretha Franklin.

SPEAKER_01 51:52

Yeah, and it's just great. And then because Rage always used to play Shake Your Tail Feather with Ray Charles and the R E S P E C D the Respect from Aretha Franklin. The version from the movie though, like I don't think it had a music video.

SPEAKER_02 52:04

Think. Yeah. Um, but the other thing, the bad thing about this film though, is because of my love for it as a kid, I have endured so many terrible Dan Aykroyd films since going, Oh, it's got the guy from the Blues Brothers. I'll watch it. Oh man. And then going, Yeah, this film sucks. Dan Aykroyd has not made very many good films.

SPEAKER_01 52:23

That was me enjoying Stephen Baldwin in Biodome. Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_02 52:28

You would have gotten to see the usual suspects though.

SPEAKER_01 52:30

I did, I did, but that was too high. I'm more of a fan of the movie Fled that he made. Yeah, there we go. All right. And Biodome, first appearance of Tenacious Ding. It was. Yeah, it was. So it's historical. It is. Let's go back to 1981 now, directed by none other than Steven Spielberg. Raiders of the Lost Ark. Perfect film.

SPEAKER_02 52:50

And I know lots of people will always go, uh Last Crusade. No last crusade. No, it's not. Yes, it is. No, it's not. Point counterpoint. Yes, it is. No, what's the best set piece in Last Crusade? The tracks of the tank. It does not come close to the boulder rolling after Indy. It's just iconic. And there's just so many great parts too. It's just so perfectly paced. I still love that the I don't know who it was on the internet that pointed out if Indiana Jones was not in the film, you would have the same outcome. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:21

It has no impact on the outcome of the film. I recently heard the exact same thing and I never realized. Big trouble in Little China. Jack Burton's not the hero of the story at all. Yeah, no. And in the epic finale, he knocks himself out with the shooting the gun in the air. And that's the only time he's in the epic fight.

SPEAKER_02 53:38

Yeah. Amazing. But yeah, it's just so great the amount of things in it that are just now iconic.

SPEAKER_01 53:46

I wish big directors still collaborated on this level because this is Spielberg and George Lucas.

SPEAKER_02 53:52

You've got George Lucas being the second unit director. The man that's going and filming the fucking seagulls on the beach. Like that is because the iconic scene where he shoots the guy instead of fighting him, like that was George Lucas directing.

SPEAKER_01 54:07

Yeah, because um Harrison Ford had dysentery or like something like that.

SPEAKER_02 54:10

Yeah, so I was like, why don't we do this? But yeah, that's like George Lucas doing that. So it's not a bad second unit director to have.

SPEAKER_01 54:16

Did you were you one of those kids that got into your your Albi Mangles and your Alan Quartermains because of this?

SPEAKER_02 54:22

Uh no, well, with like I was from a country town, so Albi Mangles would just turn up every second set up. He'd come punch a horse right in the face and on the screen and go come and watch my film. Um but big surprise, the man from the 70s turned out to be a huge piece of shit. Um but I just think it's such a rewatchable film. It's just got so many great moments, and it's just a film I could happily just sit down and watch over and over and still enjoy.

SPEAKER_00 54:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:48

Well, speak, you you've hit that description just gave is the perfect description for your next choice from 1986. It is Rob Reiner's Stand By Me. It's amazing. Perfect film.

SPEAKER_02 54:59

Yeah, I no longer have a son because of this film. He didn't love it. I was looking forward to showing him waiting till he's like about the age of the boys to go, this is when this is gonna hit hard. And watched it and went, that was a bit boring. I was like, get out.

SPEAKER_01 55:14

Yep. Um, when he was doing um Danger Does films, and he was like, What are more movies like this? I'm like, Don't bother. Yeah, this is the one.

SPEAKER_02 55:23

Because I think one of the things I think that maybe isn't uh didn't hit as hard for Zach is that as a kid it was the closest to a film that had kids doing what kids do. Yeah, and everyone talks about Seinfeld and Pulp Fiction being important for having conversations about nothing. Yes. Stand by me did it way earlier. Absolutely. Like the the campfire scene, watching that for the first time as a kid, it's like this is the stuff I've done. These are my friends, yeah. This is not the Goonies where one of us is a genius and one of us is this and one of them. This is a bunch of kids. Because I think when you watch Stand By Me, you immediately go, I'm that kid. Yeah. So for me, it was yeah, I'm I'm Gordy, you clearly Vern. That was larda. Yeah, yeah. Um, but I think you can associate with the kids, and the characters aren't cliched. No. And it's like it's support.

SPEAKER_01 56:14

But I love it. Is one of those movies where if you were to sit down like on a nerdy level, everyone has an arc. Yeah, absolutely. It's not just this is River Phoenix story. It's all four of them in the span of those couple days that they're walking. It's like coming literal coming of age.

SPEAKER_02 56:30

And almost every arc is a downer. Because you watch it, and for a film I love and would watch again and again, it's dark, it's not a happy ending.

SPEAKER_01 56:39

It's most of what happening is the family guy parody of it? No, it's perfect, yeah. Particularly the ending where it's like he got stabbed violently to dead.

SPEAKER_02 56:47

Yeah, you know that kid? He's dead. But like all of their childhoods are miserable, yeah. But they've got this little moment where they go on an adventure and and life's great. And it's another one that just was quoted by my mate.

SPEAKER_01 56:59

I do all the time. I absolutely love the ending of the Family Guy parody because uh Keith of Sutherland's character is like, oh, well, uh, I'm gonna go to my house and I'm gonna get another gun.

SPEAKER_02 57:10

Yeah, I'm gonna come back here. And legitimately, I still think he is one of the scariest characters in film. Forget your Darth Vader's.

SPEAKER_01 57:17

They've said how on both on both this and the Lost Boys, he bullied all the younger kids because he was method acting. I just think he's a piece of shit. But so menacing.

SPEAKER_02 57:26

But like I for decades couldn't watch Kiefer Sutherland in anything without going, I hate that kind of guy.

SPEAKER_01 57:31

Well, I hated him and Daniel Craig from The Power of One, because they're both that similar antagonist piece of shit.

SPEAKER_02 57:38

But he's just he's just scary, especially as a kid, because the boys can't do anything. Like but oh man, another one, the soundtrack's great, the jokes are great, yeah, and it's just effortlessly re-watchable.

SPEAKER_01 57:53

Yeah, yeah. And it is it is a masterclass in just film in every possible measurement. Like the music's perfect, the the casting's perfect, the tone. I do love because like you know, when they tell stories, because like obviously the pie eating context, which as a kid was my authority. Yeah, that's amazing. It's just it's got a little bit of everything, and it I think as much as everyone like touts off how Rob Reiner's work with like The Princess Bride was perfect, yeah. I think he'd already nailed it. Like this is fucking.

SPEAKER_02 58:23

And the kids in the kids in the interview now that they've grown up have said he was phenomenal making the film.

SPEAKER_01 58:29

I spend most of my late nights on um YouTube following the rabbit hole that is Corey Feldman. Oh, yeah, there you go. Oh my god, it's never gonna be great. Radio, that is your movies. That is a pretty fucking decent lineup. I'd see most of those films in a cinema for sure. Yeah. Now it is time for you to spread your wings because you are uh a music wanker. We are going back to the year 2000. Yep. Punk at the time was uh hitting the mainstream with the likes of Blink182, you know, Unwritten Law, or Pennywise even. Yep. They were constant rotation on alternative radio stations and stuff. But the real old school guys, the real fat wankers, if you will, no FX, pump up the volume.

SPEAKER_02 59:15

Yeah, it's still Valium. Sorry. Pains me a little seeing how many Blink 182 and Green Day posters there are around. I it brings me to it's the closest I get to my old man phase of feeling like I'm sit down. Let me talk to you about this.

SPEAKER_01 59:31

I used to work when I worked at Big Dub as a kid. There was, I was 14 or whatever, there was the biggest Noah fan uh the biggest bad religion fan you'd ever meet. Yeah, working with a huge pop punk fan that had just got into Melancholin and having those two there where he's like just fucking listen to what they're stealing from. Just go straight to the tap.

SPEAKER_02 59:52

Stop doing the water down, go to straight to the tap. It's kind of that same thing as having a massive adult Star Wars fan being put in a room with kids who go, the original trilogy, the the the the prequel trilogy is by far the best. It's so cool, it's always been cool. And just watching them go, No, you're wrong. I can't handle this, it's not as good as you think it is. But yeah, Pump Up the Volume, it could have been three No Effects albums for me. Yeah. And it just changes on a daily basis as to which I I tend to lean towards So Long and Thanks for all the shoes. I mean it's the colour of my show. I've ripped that off. But uh Pump Up the Volume is the funniest by a long way. It's the most sarcastic, exactly. It's got some amazing tracks on it, and it has a theme from a No FX album. Well that's it.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:44

If it features Dinosaurs Will Die, um Clams Have Feeling 2, and now for something completely similar, take two placebos and call me Lay. It is yeah, it really is. I think like you get those albums where the band have done they've dabbled, and they focus it's to me. This is the hooray for boobies of no FX. Yeah, yeah. It's uh that's how Lab described it, too. Yeah, because the barometer of all good music is blood hair. Um they yeah, they they kind of found their strengths, but also they're at the most cynical. Like everyone, like the more political they got, they got politically cynical. Yeah. But I loved where it's just fat mic's a cunt. Yep. And this is the perfect album.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:31

There's so much of him on this. Yes, like he's really the the references to golf, the theme to a No FX song uh album song is.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:39

I would point to this as one of those albums where you could get someone that hadn't heard No FX to listen to this, yep, and they would know one billion percent if they hated it or loved it. Well, it's also the period where they're a better band. Yeah, like their early stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:51

They're not in court like they are now and broken up. Yeah, their early stuff is fun but not great. But this was for me the first new No FX album. Yeah. Because I was a little bit late to punk. Um, I sort of grew up with the Bay City Rollers, very serious music, so like I said, first concert U2 into REMs, and it needed to be music with a lot of that still comes through in you as a person.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:16

Yeah, yeah. You still get that no, no, no, music's a serious thing, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:20

And that was the thing, it had to be serious bands playing serious songs, and novelty singles would just annoy the hell out of me. And then um, we had a camping trip, a surfing trip, and a mate's little brother, who was this little punk rat bodyboarder, was gonna drive back to Victor on his own, and it's like, well, I'll just jump in the car with you and keep company for like the four-hour drive back. And so the four-hour drive back was just him putting on all of his favourite punk albums. So I was like, Cheshire Cat. Yeah, um, so long and thanks for all the shoes. They're a cover, punk and drublick as well. And I sat there going, This is fun, this is good music, but it's also fun. Yeah, and basically from that went, I'm gonna buy a couple of these albums and just started going, This is just music that is great to listen to, but still has something to say in places, and in other places is happy to make a fart joke.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:07

I love that, even though everyone has a different taste of music, they have something that touched them like that. Because for me, that's you've just described my journey with Hooray for Booby. This is fucking all over the shop, it's really problematic and fucked up. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:22

And uh, two things because I did an anniversary special on this album as well. Uh, but the puppet on the front was done by Tim Burton's brother, yeah. Right. Yeah, so a movie connection, and the other thing is I've got it on CD and uh as a record, and the cool thing is all three formats have different lyrics to the first song because it starts with Hello Welcome to R C D. Oh, pretty much like that's the one I've always listened to. But we've got Hello Welcome to our disc and also Hello Welcome to R Cassette. And the best one is the cassette one is basically saying I wonder if Smash is different on record. But the cassette one is basically saying, I guess you can't afford a CD. Just the the the effort of going, let's do each one as a different song because Welcome to R C D doesn't make sense if it's a record or a cassette is so simple.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:10

I love someone that would have taped the CD onto tape.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:13

Yeah, yeah. But if you don't buy the other formats, you've got no idea. But the I've mentioned a couple of times theme from an LFX album is just I think every band should have to do a theme song where they explain who's in the band. Yeah. And it explains the manager and the sound guy and the tech guy, and it's just so much fun. It's yeah, I would love every band to do that. Finish off an album where they write a song about themselves, and also it needs to have an accordion. And it's a nice part of there have been two times I've seen No Effects Live where towards the end of the set you see an accordion come on stage and you go, Oh yes, this is gonna be good. Now I realize we skipped over one of your movies. Oh, yeah. It was Endless Summer.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:51

I kind of thought uh Dave's probably skipped it anyway because he either doesn't want to watch it or doesn't want to talk about it. Um, it made me think because your next choice is uh let the boys eat. Yeah, did you did you know anything about Stork? I didn't know a fucking thing about it, very but it goes in my brain in the same, and I don't mean I'm not judging it in any way. It's in the same part of my brain, someone that loves Endless Summer would love Stork. Yes, absolutely. That also later, when they'd matured a little bit, also listen to the go-betweens, but that's another thing for another.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:21

But yeah, Stork's uh an Adelaide band down from uh around Christie's, Christie's Beach, and basically one album, but it's perfect surf punk album. And it just it sounds like Did you surf? Yeah, uh, because I grew up in Victor. Yeah, and but not the hardcore shortboard trying to get barrel. Victor's the man used to sleep with, but where did you live? Um but it was getting on boards with mates, we'd take boards from the surf life saving club and get out, and it's basically probably a good eight or nine years.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:52

You don't have the skin of a childhood surfer.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:54

No, no, I've managed to avoid that, but um, but yeah, it would have been in the water four or five times. A week for about eight years. Do you ever see any shells? No. They're all over Victor now. Yeah, yeah. I had to make that saw them all the time. But no, I just wasn't looking because I didn't want to see them. Yeah. You know, you see the black silhouette in the distance. You're like, no, that was just a that was just a wave. It's a dolphin. But yeah, let the boys eat is phenomenal. It just has the energy of surf trips and hang by the beach.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:26

I think there was that magical time where like so this was 1996. Fuzz hid so many imperfections in the musical stuff. Yeah. That garage like fuzz sound. Yeah. It's like, is this recordabad? No. It's it's any as long as the energy got down on the recording. Yeah. It didn't matter how it sounded. Yeah. And some of these songs you could play with oven mitts on.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:51

Yep. Yeah. But this is just the there's some brilliant lyrics, there's some fantastic songs. Leather Poisoning is the theme song to me going out and trying to play football for the Recklink Community Cup because it's the greatest song ever written about football.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:03

Leather Poisoning sounds like a Diamond Sins gig. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:06

It has the line if I could kick a little straighter, I'd be Footy's Kelly Slater. How can you not love that? And uh shout out to uh uh fellow WoW FM presenter Captain Anto who gave me the blue vinyl version of Let the Boys Eat, which was amazing. Oh, he's I'm gonna have him on next time he's in town. Mayor of Borough. Um, but yeah, I just think this is a perfect album that I can just listen to over and over and over and over again. And there's a couple of amazing music videos that go with the songs too. Nice high quality stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:35

Fuck yeah. It's the band that Silver Chair pretended to be. There we go.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:40

Nirvana's in pajamas. That's my favourite description of Silver Chair. Or Nirvana.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:45

Speaking of Nirvana, let's go to 1993. Yep. It is the man that created air, water, fire, the elements, the earth, the universe, gods, everything. Yes. Billy Corgan. Yeah, he's now got his wrestling league on television. Mate, have you do you watch any of his current days? Like, he goes on a lot of like I love like uh Professor of Rock and all the all these other like guys that do deep dives. Every time Billy Corgan's on, he complains about someone else. He's one of those people like my candle will burn brighter if I blow everyone's out. Yeah he's he wrote smells like Teen Spirit. He fucking the things that he takes credit for, and then like they'll sometimes they'll like because they'll clip it for their socials, they'll marry up what he's accusing of as like something be like bing boom, like in the back, like an elevator will get to the floor and go bing boom. He's like, they stole that from today. I wrote that elevator song. And the weirdest thing he's an adult Disney fan, he's a regular visitor to Disney World and Disney World. And I just can't at first because he's so cluey in wrestling. I'm like, he's playing a character now. Yeah, he he is being a deliberate heel, but I genuinely think he did the things he did. Like he's taking credit for like some of the hooks of Allison Chains, like Soundgarden. But anyway, tell us about this album.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:02

Massively pretentious. Yeah, man. If you've got the time on YouTube, you should have you seen the interview where he interviews Nick Cave at Wallapalooza. That's yeah, that's fucking horrible. The slapdown is just amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:15

It's so uncomfortable. Who thought that would be a good idea? I so often like will fall into the clickbait stuff and Soul Watch out like the 10 worst interviews, that's always there. And um Blur getting interviewed uh by Narmo and Cunz.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:28

Yeah, it's like you but this album I bought the day it was released. Yeah, I didn't know much about the Smashing Pumpkins, but I used to get street press and uh enemy and stuff. And there was an article on this on the NME, and Mike Mills from REM played piano on it, and that was enough for me to go, oh I'm gonna check this out. Because the review of it was saying this album's phenomenal. Put it on and went, uh I don't like this. It sounds a bit strange. And didn't listen to it for a while, and then eventually it was in the car, so put it in and just grew to love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:59

And but honestly, look at the iconic lineup, you've got songs like Cherub Rock Today, Disarm and Mayonnaise. Yeah, like you've almost got their best hits in the one album.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:08

But it's also like Melancholy has fantastic songs on it, but that is pretentious. There are points of that that you go settle down. This song doesn't need to be 13 minutes, yeah. Um, and it doesn't need to be a double album. That would be a phenomenal single album.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:21

Anyone that thinks they can do quantity and quality is that take a step back.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:25

Yeah, because yeah, if you trim the fat on melancholy, that's a phenomenal album.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:31

Oh mate, anyone could cure like it's like when um Topha Grace cut down the prequel trilogy into one film that was perfect, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:39

You could do the same thing with fucking melancholy, yeah. But the musicality on this is incredible, and it was pretty much Billy Corgan being an arsehole and playing everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:49

I do love though, I'm waiting for him to, even though Phil Spectre invented it, yeah, because this is one of the first uh grunge albums that did the wall of sound, yeah. But Billy uh says that he stumbled across that on his own, just he just wanted more and more layers and stuff. Yeah, I'm waiting for him to say Phil Spectre got a time machine, stole it from me, and went back in time. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:12

His cousin was playing guitar on stage after travelling back in time. It's your cousin Marvin Corgan. But I still think it's a phenomenal album. It didn't sound like anything else at the time because everyone was starting to try and sound like either Nirvana or Pearl Jam. And this didn't, and it wasn't trying to be.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:31

And I think this fits least in the Seattle sound. Yeah, definitely. Like this, for lack of a better comprehension, like this leans towards like a Jeff Buckley opera, like Twinkly opera, as much as it does the Seattle grunge sound.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:47

Yeah, well, you got to that stage with uh grunge sound, is that they would continually go, Oh, we've made this because we don't want people to listen to us. Where Billy Corgan's like, I want everyone to hear this because I'm the greatest and they need to go.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:59

Hey, everyone come look at my pixies.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:01

Yeah, yeah. But also the absolute standout is Jimmy Chamberlain's drums. I maintain and tell anyone that will listen, he is by far the best drummer of the 90s because he plays the drums like a lead instrument, he's not there to keep time, it's there to be an instrument that has licks and has riffs. It's he plays drums like a guitar, a lead guitarist plays guitar. Yeah, so it's amazing to listen to, but it's also not like, oh geez, that drummer's trying to do feels everywhere. No, everything he does. Everything compliments what it's doing. And so, yeah, it is, I still think, an album that if I am like, I don't know what I want to listen to, I'll just grab this, put it on, and I'm happy for like however long it goes for, 40 something minutes. Because there's just amazing tracks on there.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:48

Well, let's talk about one of the bands that stole their sound from the Smashing Pumpkins as we go back to 1989 and talk about the Pixies Do Little.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:56

The uh greatest album ever, in my opinion. Wow, this is it, this is it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:00

This is the Grail CD. Uh I just think You're dropping down in the Terminator 2 lava. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:06

This is the CD you hold up instead of a hurry up because it is just uh a CD that no matter how much my tastes change or whatever phase I'm going through, I can put this on and go, this is the best. Yeah. It's a CD that I don't like it'll be always be respected, but I don't think we'll ever be popular in that everybody has a copy of it, like Grace by Jeff Buckley, that everybody's gonna have their copy and they're all gonna play a cover of Hallelujah on their acoustic guitar. It's an album that people that have it will love it. Yeah, and people that hear it in passing might go, I don't think that's for me. So it's got that same thing of I don't think everyone else will take over and kill it for me. My son pointed out 6-7 on the cover. Oh fuck. So that takes away from it. But it does have Zach's cruising for a bruisin. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:57

As soon as he's 18, we're fighting.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:58

Yeah, I I also love that the Picties have quoted the Bloodhound Gang on this album.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:02

Well, not just that, I discovered the Pixies because of Bloodhound Gang, because Firewater Burn, he says I'm not white like Frank Black, I'm white like Frank Black is. Um, he also says this junkie's gone to or this monkey's gone to the devil in six. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:19

Well, I went the other way in that I'd completely dismiss Bloodhound Gang. How fucking this is crap. I don't want to like it's your standard triple J novelty single that'll probably be number three in the game. It's not Dana Lyons Cows with Guns. And so I'd always dismiss it. And then I remember the moment I was driving home to Victor in the car, and it came on, and I just turned it up a little and went, okay, what are they talking about? And it had the Pixie line in it, and I just went, This is the best. I need to hear that again. Yeah, because it was the radio, you didn't have Spotify, you couldn't hear it. And the donkey noise. Yeah, yeah. You couldn't hear it again unless you went and bought it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:56

I had it on a tape that wasn't recorded from the radio, it was recorded from my sister's radio player with my stereo in front of it recording.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:04

So basically, I drove back to Victor, went to the terrible music store in Victor shout out show sponsor. Yeah, they had the Bloodhound Gang CD, uh, One Fierce Beer Coaster, and I just bought it on the strength of that line from uh the Pixies quote, and then just went, actually, this is so much fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:23

To me, the Bloodhound Gang can do no wrong, even when they do lots of wrong.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:27

Yeah, have you seen their appearance on comic book men? Yep. Yeah, that's it's like I said, even when they do wrong, they could do it. It's like, okay, you say you're the bloodhound gang, but you were like the guy standing in the background that didn't really do much. But yeah, I just I love this album, I love everything about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:43

The base uh monkey gone to heaven, Here Comes Your Man, Wave of Mutilation. What is your favourite track on the album?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:49

Uh I wave mutilation's incredible, yeah, but also the first time I did hear the pixies and not really know the other pixies was the wave of mutilation version on Pump Up the Volume soundtrack. Um, and terrible film, great soundtrack. Fuck you. No, it's not good. Have you really watched it?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:06

Shut up! This whole thing exists because of that movie. I wonder private parts and pump up the volume are the only reason I have any interest in radio. I did wonder why we're in the back of a moving band at the moment, Dave.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:20

I was wondering. Um I beat off for the whole first five minutes you wear. I don't like I don't have a favourite song because there's nothing worth skipping. It's it's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:31

Yeah, I love it. It's so good. Fuck, yeah. All right, let's move on to your next choice. We are going back.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:38

And sorry, I'll just backtrack on you going, you managed to hide your disdain for smashing pumpkins reasonably well. It could have been Radiohead Dave. It was very close up to being Radio Head. You know what?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:49

I've had to develop a thick skin and a somewhat of a not love. Yeah. Because Paranoid Android is one of the greatest songs of the fucking artist to me. But the scab that I've had to develop with my son playing fucking Radiohead over and over again, and Smashing Pumpkins were my sister's second favourite band. So by my by mitosis, I copped all of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:14

Did you see the Hard Times article headline a couple of months back that was son, you're 15, it's time to start your pretentious radiohead phase? That's so true.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:23

It's funny because like it was because you know, obviously I forced all the movies, tried to force wrestling, tried to force Limbiscit on my kids, didn't really take. Everyone thinks that I got Declan into Radiohead, but it's absolutely not the case. Yeah, that'd be cool. He turned 15 and I'm like, is that Baron Rod Andrew? You listen to Radiohead? He's like, yeah. He's like, oh, this isn't the best song on the MR. Shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:48

I think we've found your pathway to listening to The Smiths.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:51

Maybe. I blame Casey. She talked it up so much, and I respected her opinion so much. And I just fell in love with that fat dick head.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:02

And you've seen the the great internet post that the Facebook reaction emojis are in the order of discovering Morrising. Yeah. Going from smiling to just being angry.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:12

Yeah, it's exactly that. It is funny. Alright, this next album to me is your best choice. I love it. We're going back to 996. It is Weezer's Pinkerton. Yep. This is a band. No one hates Weezer. I've heard it said before, no one hates wrestling more than wrestling fans. Yeah. No one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans. Yeah. No one hates Weezer more than Weezer fans.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:36

I would say no one hates Weezer music more than Weezer fans. They love Weezer. I know. But they hate the latest album.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:43

I'm just like, shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:45

But I think that problem is Weezer are great at releasing albums that have one good song.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:49

Hey, when Beverly Hills came out, I was like, this song is fucking sick. It could have gone on any, it could have gone on the blue album, could have gone on Pink. It's and it just got torn like it was a punchline. I'm like, this song's good.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:03

Well, have you heard the song Exploder with Rivers about how he writes songs?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:06

He uses a spreadsheet. You I got onto it after you told me that. He has just, for those listening, Rivers Cuomo has just lines that he thought were clever in an Excel spreadsheet. And he just moves them together because they might half-rhyme or they're.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:21

And the other part is he says he finds chord progressions in songs that he likes. He'll put them into his spreadsheet with a cryptic crossword clue to the song that he got it from so he doesn't remember what it is. So he doesn't came from. And then he'll use that progression in his own thing. And like people that get into his lyrics, and it's like, nah, it's just a collection of random words together.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:50

Those words are so open-ended because they're like critics. Yeah. I'm telling a deep story. Yeah. And then you think the same thing of Weezer, and then to find out when he just literally says, nah, it's bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:01

It's all bullshit. But I think this album early on is definitely Rivers Singing About Rivers. It's a guy who's always been pretty nerdy and on the fringes that suddenly has become cool and people want to spend time with. And there's so much of this album.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:23

I can imagine dealing with that. The like fucking consequence of sound article about he says half Japanese girl. It's like shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:31

That I bought this album because of that. I was living in Scorcho. Well, I was living in Japan.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:37

Oh yeah. And my And you were half Japanese girl.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:40

My one of the guys that shared the apartment with me. Trust as a geisha listening to this song. One of the guys that I shared an apartment with would just be walking along the street. And like, let's say this was definitely 90s. Yes. And someone would yell the F-slur out of a moving car as a dog. Someone would walk past, a girl would walk past, and he would just go, God damn, you have Japanese girls over and over and over again. It just you knew he was going to say it. You'd see someone coming and you'd go, and you'd point to him at the moment it came out. Silence before the word before you could hear it. Point to him as it would leave his mouth. And it just was there. And I mean, El Scorcho, you mentioned Paranoid Android. El Scorcho's the same. I think that's Paranoid Android is Radiohead's Bohemian Rhapsody. El Scorcho is Wheezer's Bohemian Rhapsody. And it's an incredible song. It is just such a great song. And then there's so many great moments to it. And it's the glory of Wheezer when Matt Sharp was still doing weed, weird backing vocals and being in the band. And some great YouTube clips that are.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:42

There is, they recently played again. Yep. And he's in the room. Yeah. And he's finishing stories that they didn't, they couldn't remember. And he did the backups. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:51

Because yeah, there's those YouTube videos that are Weezer but just Matt Sharp's parts. Yes. And they're incredibly good. Oh, he just was doing some cool things for the band back then. And it features, I still think the greatest Weezer song is not by Weezer, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:06

Is it Nada Surfs Popular? No. Because that's also a Weezer song that's not by Nerf Hurter. Nerf Herder, yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:12

Yeah, sorry. Do you know what Parry Grip's doing now? Like the lead singer of Nerf Herder. He well, he's not now, but like 10 years ago, all the massive uh baby monkey riding on a pig and chimpanzee riding on a segue, that's him. He did all of those songs. What the fuck? And would have made so much money from those YouTube videos. But all of those, that's the lead singer of Nerf Hurter doing it's raining. Since it's raining, I fucking love that song. Yeah. Baby Monkey riding backwards on a pig has been stuck in my head for eight years. If I'm driving in the car, I'm suddenly going, yeah. But there, they have a song We Open for Weezer, and it is the best Weezer song ever written. And it's great. It's got like uh it's about uh Pinkerton coming out, it's got like the line the guy from Rolling Stone didn't like the songs, but the guy from Rolling Stone was totally wrong about Weaser. Uh and it's yeah, yeah, it's incredible. They also have a song called Weezer Star Wars Theory, and they explain that the first three Weezer albums perfectly mirror the first three Star Wars films. Yeah, right. That like the first one was super popular, second one was a bit darker and a few.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:14

Well, this is this is the album that's the most down. I like it. It's his most personal. Absolutely. Like you said, he obviously started the XL spreadsheet after this because he ran things to say. But you know, you're talking about a lead singer that had the had his legs lengthened. Yep. That's insane. Like, I don't know if you've ever looked into what they do with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:32

Yeah, he had his legs cut in half, broken and stretched, and he basically couldn't walk for a year. And I also always love the fact that the he's impressed by the girl not knowing who Green Day is. How cool is that? How cool is that. We'd all love to live in that world. Yeah. Um, but yes, such a good album, and just infinitely listenable. I mean, blue album is I think on par, yep. Uh a little poppier and just as easy to listen to.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:58

I won't get into that argument because I think they're both as strong as each other. I I love both of them. But this is what I'm saying. You meet a Weezer fan that have their heels dug in about either of those albums. It's like, shut the fuck up. Yeah, no. Uh love both of them, but you know what? Pork and beans, absolute fucking banger.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:15

When you sent it through, El Scorcho got this one over the line. Yeah. Uh Buddy Holly is so good, uh, particularly for the film clip. But El Scorcho, you have to have an album if it's got El Scorcho on it. It's incredible.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:27

Uh I was introduced to Weezer through uh 100% uh Triple J's Hottest 100 volume 4.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:34

El Scorcho was the standard. So good.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:36

And I've only managed to see them once. I remember going to see Sean Hughes, the comedian. Uh would have been host of the great sitcom from the 90s Shawnee show. Oh, so so good. Yeah, that was incredible. Uh he has that great line of everybody, he he once made the joke, everybody goes through a mor uh everybody gets over their Morrissey phase except for Morrissey. And then he talks later on that he once met Morrissey and went, oh no, he's gonna bring it up. And Morrissey said, I I remember what you said about how everyone has a Morrissey phase and they get over it. Everyone gets over their Morrissey phase except for Morrissey. That's really true. Well, the guy has a sense of humour. Well, he does he hides it well. Yeah, but he was on stage. Uh, so we saw his stand-up gig, and he just did this whole bit about how he watched Weezer in Adelaide the night before. And I didn't really know Weezer at the time, and he's just doing all this riffs about what he thought of the concert and how amazing it was and how good it was, and then years later getting into Weezer going, Yeah, I should have gone to that concert. But I did get to see them um with um the cornflakes of current music Foo Fighters, and Weezer were incredible. It was just I wouldn't say cornflakes, because I still like cornflakes. Um it was just every song you would want Weezer to play. Because I was thinking, you know, maybe it's gonna be new stuff or the new album, but they knew what people wanted to hear, and they played every single one of it, and it was just the best.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:01

Food Fighters are the big Mac of the world, where when you're younger you think, oh, this burger's great. And then when you get older you realize that there's double quarter pounders in the world.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:10

I watched the the documentary, uh, and I also watched the Paul McCartney one recently too, and they parallel each other in that both Dave and Paul McCartney try to push the narrative that when I was starting my new band, it was really tough. No, at all. Because we could only play small venues and no one knew who we were, and we really had to build ourselves from the ground. No, you were the guy from Nirvana. Yeah, you didn't have to build an audience because you could have been doing anything, and kids are gonna come and see you, and you're Paul McCartney. You could be doing anything.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:40

Chris from Nirvana could have thrown rocks at his turned-on bass and sold out a like a fucking palladium.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:46

Yeah, but I uh we'll always look at Foo Fighters and not hate them because Chris Schifflet is on guitar and he's in the me first in the gimme gimme. So we were almost one of the albums that I picked too because of my love for that band. Runs very strong.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:00

I'm happy to say that the first time I ever saw Gimme Gimmies was standing right next to you, yeah. Always being my standard of arms folded, no movement. That is where I live. Greatest time of my life holding and folding my arms. Fuck yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:15

So once again, that is your 10. Thank you so much. Oh, look, I am looking forward to coming and hosting the final one with you again, baby. Yeah. When things go bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:25

Yeah, yeah. When things are starting out and when things go bad, I'll always call on you. I'm the Ted McGinley of your podcast. You are. You are. Um, well, thank you so much for coming on, titties. Oh, absolutely. An absolute pleasure. Thank you for inviting me, Dave.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:38

And I don't ignore that line.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:40

Everybody can ignore that line.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:42

That's my new gadge phrase. It's great to have some content to listen to again. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:47

Yeah. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:48

Where can everyone check out everything you have going on? Well, everyone can check out everything I've going on. What's the website doing now? A very small window of 8 pm to 10 p.m. on a very small Small broadcast frequency of 100.5 if they are in the port having it. You have to have the old bunny ears from old. Pretty much. Um, but you can stream it on wowfm.org if the website is up and running. Yep. And on socials, it is at WOWFM Hi-Fi H I F I. And uh that's it. And other than that, I will usually just be walking around the house looking for something to do.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:24

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