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Episode 1 - Ben Sachse
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This week on TDDS, Dave is joined by legendary toy collector, certified rad dude, and the voice of Toy Power Podcast; Ben Sachse!
The boys dive headfirst into the movies, music, and pop-culture obsessions that shaped Ben into the man he is today. Expect huge love for Nu-Metal, rollerblading, chaotic mid-90s ultra-violent animated movies, and the glory days of hunting toys in Adelaide before online shopping ruined the thrill forever.
Ben also talks concert ticket collecting, cinema nostalgia, old-school collecting culture, and a mountain of other fun nonsense that only true pop-culture degenerates will appreciate.
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SPEAKER_03Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to the Daniel Damon! Coming to you live from the Dave Cave, this is the Davey Damage Show, aka Titties. I am your host, Dave, and it is absolutely great to have you wasting your time listening to me waste mine. Now, I think the hardest part of what I'm doing today here on the podcast is explaining exactly what the Davey Damage Show, aka Titties, is going to be. As many people know, well, at least two of the three people listening today would know, I used to host Dave's video graveyard with the incredible human Casey Cumming. That podcast kind of reached its end last year around July, and it kind of felt like it had reached its natural conclusion. So in saying that, this isn't so much a sequel of DVG, but I kind of feel like it's probably going to take a lot of elements and, you know, kind of morph over time into something else. But for now, I'm trying something a little bit different and probably emphasis on the little, and I know it'll eventually show all the deranged traits of DVG. I'm really hoping that Casey will be involved at some capacity at some stage. Um, also, if anyone's keen to talk shit about Casey, especially about her not being part of this podcast, I can tell you for sure that I'm not the audience for that opinion. Uh, I think the absolute world of Casey, and I always will. And obviously, this is kind of a podcast that was inspired heavily by the toy collecting podcast that is Chris Fresh Collects. I really like the idea of just being able to go away at random times in my week and just record when I feel like it. And of course, when I can, I'll drag along a friend slash guest and uh just try and get something happening. And a big part of like DVG, probably the hardest part of it, was Casey and I both live very busy lives, so we're only uh available to record basically every second Saturday. And if something came up, that kind of threw a spanner in the works because neither of us enjoyed doing evenings, we're both very tired from our full-time jobs, so it kind of limited when we could get together. So this is kind of gonna be a lot more relaxed in uh a lot less regimen, I guess you could say, which I don't think many people would have accused Dave's Judio Graveyard of being. But anyway, if Casey comes and is part of this show, it will be fucking amazing. But we'll wait and see what's in store. It's gonna be recorded in what I call the Dave Cave. It is my Ninja Turtles collection room slash library, and uh I put library in air quotes there for everyone listening. This is going to be recorded in essentially my back shed. So uh this one's not for audiophiles. You're gonna enjoy all the additions that are made by my elderly neighbour that loves to listen to Talkback Radio. She takes her transistor radio into the back garden, turns it on full blast, and listens to ABC Classic and goes inside and forgets. Sometimes she'll forget it Friday afternoon and remember it Monday morning. Um, I remember recently I was sick at home and she had left her phone on out in the gazebo area of her backyard with the alarm on. So we got to enjoy that from about Tuesday afternoon to about four o'clock, and that one ran flat about Thursday. So she gets a lot more charge out of her phone than mine does, I know that's for sure. But you'll get to enjoy that. Uh, you'll get to enjoy the pigeons and the magpies in my backyard. They always have something to say, and they're absolute fuck wits. So, yeah, just letting you know that this is not going to win any podcasting awards anytime soon. Radio. So the David Dammy show is gonna be based on me and my guests' mutual love for pop culture and uh a lot about the lives of my guests. I spend all my free time outside of full-time work, hanging with my family. We go to op shops and garage sales, so I don't have so much of what's called a social life. I don't really enjoy drinking because when I've had a few drinks, nothing isn't funny to me. So the joke just gets bigger and bigger and bigger, much to the uh dismay of a lot of people. I'm like, no, this is funny, and you're gonna have to deal with it. So I'm an obnoxious fuckface when I drink, so I tend not to, but yeah, this is gonna be my excuse to hang out with some people I either I find interesting or just an excuse to catch up with some good friends, and uh hope you enjoy whatever we can come up with. Now I know it's quite conceited, but I want to thank everyone listening and everyone that sticks with listening because over the next few months I think that this is gonna be a very much so a trial. Gonna throw shit at the world and see what sticks basically. I don't have a full idea of what I want to do, but then I've got a million ideas of things that I want to include and whether or not they work, we're all gonna basically find out as we cross those bridges. So I appreciate you listening. If it's not your kind of thing, I absolutely understand and I will probably hate you forever, but I'll never let you know. Now, in one of the most self-important things you'll ever find, this is what, like a couple minutes into the first ever episode, and I'm letting you know that I do have a Patreon. Now it's not gonna be very expensive, but I do want everyone to know that I don't expect you to pay for anything that I do here. There is gonna be an exclusive show called CD Sad Days, which is me going through my CD collection. I'm still a huge fan of listening to CDs, and you can join me as I go through week by week. Every Saturday, there's gonna be an episode called CD Saturdays, where I give you a review track by track of the different CDs in my collection, and they're gonna lean heavily towards the 100% hits and hit machine as well as some movie soundtracks. That is pretty much the biggest part of my collection. But of course, you can always request a CD, but yeah, head over to Patreon if that's something you're interested in, and if it's not, you absolutely lose nothing. Now, with that in mind, I think it's time we hear from some of our sponsors.
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SPEAKER_03This is the David Damage Show, and today we're approving that 90s pop star actress Vanessa Williams is absolutely full of shit. She famously sang the song Save the Best for Last, but we decided to save the best for first. My guest this week is a toy collector and host of the epically successful Toy Power podcast. We've got Ben Big Saxy Sax. What's been going on, man?
SPEAKER_02Just work, mate. Um, doing the uh kids derby at the moment, uh just trying to keep up with them.
SPEAKER_03Uh and for those that don't know, kids' derby for you is where you roll around on your rollerblades and knock kids over. Yeah, pretty much.
SPEAKER_02Unwarranted, just totally I've got um skates on my hands, skates on my elbows, skates on my uh knees. It's weird the uh I'm like a bowling ball.
SPEAKER_03I was gonna say it's weird the choice of the helmet with the dildo on top, and you're like, I'm a unicorn.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, I I prefer it to put witch's hat cone, but you know, each their own.
SPEAKER_03So So for the two people listening, the people that don't know you, which will be like that halves it again. So the one person listening that doesn't know who you are, Ben, who is Ben Sachs?
SPEAKER_02Who is Ben Sachs? Okay, I'm a uh local nerd in Adelaide. I've been collecting uh I can sort of pinpoint it to the age of 16 where I first got my first aliens comic, and I didn't know that they made adult mature comics out of I thought I up until then I was reading Garfield, Archie, you know, random stuff. Occasionally I d I had a Ninja Turtles comics, I didn't know where that came from, but you know, from the local news agency, the comic, the cartoon version. Uh, and I've amassed a pretty large toy collection. I love my movies and things, uh, I love all that sort of stuff. So all that pop culture things. Uh used to read a lot of comics, but uh just ran out of time. Used to play games, ran out of time, so now it's all focused uh on uh toys and watching TV and movies.
SPEAKER_03So I was only thinking last night the last game I think that I picked up and played to absolute completion would have been Mortal Kombat 9 on Xbox 360. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I remember about a month in they released Freddy Krueger and all this other DLC at the time, which I'm like, I've already paid for the game, I'm not getting more shit. But so you are the host of the Toy Power podcast. I'm one of the podcasts. I would know I would say the host. Okay, there you go. And then you have those co-hosts that you run on with. Yep, yep. How did you guys meet?
SPEAKER_02Uh so I met with Darren first. Um uh Darren was a um frequenter and with Trent at the Adelaide Toy uh Mega Toy Fair. Yep. We bumped into each other and then uh exchanged phone numbers because he was interested in some other uh toys that I didn't have at the show. Yeah. And we got uh talking and then we sort of did the first podcast off air by catching up and talking about the San Diego news and things like that, um, comic cons and stuff. And then Trent got wind of this that we're having these little catch-ups and things, and he wanted to join. And instead of in sort of inviting himself along, he said, Come around for a barbecue, dinner, bring the whole family around for a barbecue, see my toy collection, and uh, you know, get to know everyone. And so he invited me to his uh house that he's residing in right now, and I just thought this guy is an absolute legend. I'd never seen anyone's uh collection aside from myself. Uh yeah I'd met other people who were dabbled in toys, but aside from that, it was just YouTube and things like that. I met a new people uh around the um place, and uh that was awesome. And we started doing the frequent, more frequently catch-ups and things, and uh have a few drinks, go out and to the local arcade and play uh games and pinball and all that sort of jazz. And then uh Trent sent me a message one day out of the blue saying, Hey, how about we do a podcast? Aaron and I are thinking about doing a podcast, yeah. Why don't we do that? And I sent every emoji under the sun saying, Yes, definitely count me in, Keenaz. And the idea was instead of focusing on Master Universe, which we all had an enormous passion for, it was the hype of Master Universe, the the movie, you know, air quotation marks is coming out soon, so why not? But Darren said no, let's do it on all toy lines that we that way we're not, you know, absolutely you're not folding it into a two episodes and then you run out of the whole thing. Exactly. So Darren, that was Darren's input.
SPEAKER_03And it's my understanding that Frank joined in a kind of a funny way later. Well he read an he read an ad that you guys had running and he thought it was called Boy Power, which was like a spin-off of the manpower strippers.
SPEAKER_02He probably saw the plane with the uh hanger, you know, the flight the doodard that hangs off the plane flying over the sky, so that's why he couldn't read it properly and contacted us. He's like, but this isn't boy power.
SPEAKER_03But it was weird that he did eight episodes before he realised that he's sitting there in his chip and tale calves, no shirt on.
SPEAKER_02It was weirder that he said a video of that, you know.
SPEAKER_03Uh never was weird. You were like, Yeah, so here's my favourite toy, you know, here's the coolest variant of the two year 2000 eggs, and he's just rubbing baby cream and baby oil over and then showing us the hamburger straight after. I was saying, how funny, like you know the way strippers always put baby oil all over him and stuff. How funny would it be to rock up and put pseudo cream all over? Because you're like, I thought you said baby cream, and you're just fully white, like uh staper marshmallow man. Yeah, no, honestly, you guys have killed it. Like, um, you start around the same time that I started doing the radio. I think you guys were a bit out in front of me and stuff, and I just remember like thinking on my feet, making his absolutely trash radio show, and then listening to you guys. I'm like, this sounds like you've been doing it forever.
SPEAKER_02Oh mate, we started we started off with Sing Star Mics, and yeah, the episode where we had James Eatok, which was episode three or five or six or something, the quality couldn't be worse, like it's very lit barely listenable, yeah, but his the information he was uh you know broadcasting was uh it's absolute gold.
SPEAKER_03Like, but I was gonna say it is funny though, because you think we are the generation that grew up watching chewed up videotapes. Yeah, if you wanted to watch it, you you would allow any amount of tracking.
SPEAKER_02What watching some of the porn on um Foxtel and things on that secret channel and just yeah, yeah, oh look, I saw a boob. Like, you go to everyone knows you think that's a nipple.
SPEAKER_03You'd go to Nick at night, yeah, yeah. You'd then change it over to the uh it was like the pay-per-view channel because that was the porno channel for the rest of the thing. You press input twice quickly and it would unscramble it just for about two seconds. Yeah, and that was enough back in the day.
SPEAKER_02Well, and and also finding uh porno in you know bins and things. Like I was going around collecting the five cents, yeah, you know, refundable um bottles and cans and things. I was poor too, yeah. And and like and like that and I'd find heaps of porn because we had a park next to us and things. So you know, water soaked, X-rated porn was.
SPEAKER_03In some bushes. And the coolest thing about it was on like the first page, stuck inside, perfectly flat and a little white in a little baggy. I was like, what's this? It was the flight of a dart, and each side, you know, like the back end of a dart, it was a free promotional picture magazine dart, and it just had like a naked lady on every tip of the like wing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And mate, I it changed the world. I I know it changes your like I know in your brain you kind of conflate it. I'm sure I had that for like years. Sliding doors moment. Why didn't you become a professional dart player?
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SPEAKER_03It's funny because uh yeah, it and I always wondered like why are we always finding these mags in parks? Yeah, yeah, it's other kids that have taken them there and can't take them home. And that's exactly like I remember it's so funny because I'm pretty sure the one where I got the dart bit out of, we left it at the park because none of us could take it home. Of course, yeah, and now you're sitting in a room that is filled to the brim with thousands of magazines. Yep. Yeah, no, so that's really awesome. And um still going strong with the podcast, of course. Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_02We were over four uh coming up to four hundred and fortyps or something like that. So that that's pretty awesome. We we unfortunately lost Darren. We um and uh we grabbed uh Scotty and made him our sort of producer type role, so we haven't never can never replace Darren. Absolutely Scott is a fantastic sort of um extra fourth host. Yep, and uh it's it's great to catch up. I'd be catching I love I love it because we can just catch up, we can talk and have a few drinks and things like that, and just you know, shoot the breeze and not have to worry about boring uh missus and things like that. And we've been awesome.
SPEAKER_03And given that I know all your missus is you're all fucking dubbed on. I'm sending messages right now on Facebook.
SPEAKER_02I can see, I can see. Nice.
SPEAKER_03So I send you through some here on the David Jamie Show. We like to get to know people and just a few different questions, um, stolen very much so from Twitter Podcast. Go for it. If you had a MySpace profile, what would the profile song be? Pendulum. Right.
SPEAKER_02Voodoo People. It's the best of uh prodigy uh with a bit of an upbeat uh bass, you know, like mus uh sort of beat, and it doesn't have any words or lyrics, you know, it's got voodoo people or whatever, but you could jump in at any point and it'd be just doo doo-doo, it'd really hype you up, I reckon.
SPEAKER_03It is funny. I often think because I know your taste in music, we we see a lot of similarities, but I know there's bits that like you you got quite into a lot of the industrial drum and bass and stuff, and it's so funny. Every time I watch the movie Crank, yeah, the whole movie is just that kind of soundtrack, and I'm like, Ben would fucking love this band. Yeah, yeah. Alrighty oh, uh, who plays you in a movie of your life?
SPEAKER_02So this was really hard, and I um Re I try I asked Ree who does that, and she's like, I don't know. So that was uh you know fantastic. Well worth it, thanks. Yeah. I've got with Aaron Paul. Do you know who Aaron Paul is? So I'm breaking back. Yep, yep, Jesse Pinkman or whatever. Fuck you've nailed it. He's 46 years old, I'm 44. Yeah, he's got a big fell forehead like me, so it sinks up. He's got that sort of uh rusty, you know, sort of um you know, bit of a not polished look. So I think uh he could, you know, he could do me or wrong.
SPEAKER_03I think you're quite neat and tidy in your appearance, but you are an ex-metal head. So there's always there's only a level of neatness you can get to when you grew up loving metal.
SPEAKER_02I've never got fashion either. I'm always, you know, a decade behind with fashion, so yeah.
SPEAKER_03Alright, so when you were a kid, obviously you told us you were a huge fan of toys and uh video games and stuff. What were the posters on your wall as well?
SPEAKER_02So this was really hard for me to recall, and I was trying to, I was looking through all my photos because I know I was like, This was all just D. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, you know, what's wrong with this part of my and things? Just it's not even posters, it's Dolly Doctor. You're like, oh, red string going around the Where's my vagina look like a penis?
SPEAKER_03Ben S from SA.
SPEAKER_02Um so I had X-files, the Would You Believe uh picture. Um Ninja Turtles, I had the movie Ninja Turtles poster, but it was like German. It was like one of the day. Yeah, right. German day bill, yeah. Yeah. Uh here's one for you. I had the poster for Existence, right?
SPEAKER_03So the that movie doesn't get enough love.
SPEAKER_02No, it's probably three people that have seen that movie, and I had a poster of it.
SPEAKER_03So I love the fact that um oh maybe it's strange days. I was gonna say the right here, right now from Fat Boy Slam, but that I reckon that's strange days. Existence, it was that time like around virtuosity and movies like that where science fiction, we didn't know what the future was gonna be. And kind of we'd move past the 80s version of the future where it was like, oh, you know, far-fetched, high concept, yeah, yeah, dystopian. Lade runner, like we kind of gave up on spaceships at one point and we're like, well, it's gonna be virtual reality, it's gonna be all computer-based. And that movie is for those that haven't seen it, it's basically you can buy experiences that you download into your own brain, and of course, the black market begins where people start selling um murders and you know different things like that. Yep.
SPEAKER_02That's a really cool movie. Yeah, yeah. So there's classic, and then uh one of those stupid hang-in there, the kittens. Oh, really? Yeah, you know, uh, and then I had heaps of little cutouts from magazines on my door. Like my door was covered with stickers and pictures, quite a few Pamela Anderson and things, because Baywatch was big at the time. Dad hated it. Uh, but it's so reality.
SPEAKER_03It's fucking funny. Like, I think back to like I'm obviously a creepy pervert now, but I remember growing up, I was so weird about having girls in posters on my wall because I'm like, oh, that's people gonna think I'm gay. Yeah, yeah. It's like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_02I remember I went round my mate's house and he had the the um uh Mad Max poster, yeah. And it's it's just a shirt, it's the um what's the the Wes? No, the the bad guy. Is it the bad guy? Yeah, Wes the with the thing of that that had the um that had their Ford um interceptor in the background and things, and it's just looks so weird having this naked guy, you know, like it'd be equivalent to a wrestler or he-man or something.
SPEAKER_03I remember going to cheapest chips back in the day and getting for ten dollars this poster, which was a lot of money at the time, this framed poster of Shawn Michaels. And at the time he was my favourite wrestler. But looking back, it really bothered my dad. He was like, What is that? Yeah, and I was like, What are you talking about? Seeing it as an adult and how homoerotic it is, like it's him lying with the belt over his crutch, it's really creepy. So uh pretty soon I went and bought the Sable one, which uh huge fan of to this day. Nice, Roddyo. Um what was your very first concert?
SPEAKER_02Uh I'm glad you asked that, and I've got a bit of proof here. So I've been going through some old uh paperwork and um pictures and things like that, and uh so my first concert was The Big Day Out in um 2001, and I've still got the ticket for the um for the concert uh to this day. I kept all uh I kept majority of my um I put it to you that your first concert is my first concert. Oh, we could have. Limbis get cancelled three days before because a girl died in Sydney.
SPEAKER_03Yep, yep. Um and then the headliner slot was taken up by uh it was who else was there that's a lot of it. So it was Powderfinger? Powderfinger, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Queens of the Stone Age, and Queens of the Stone Age came out and he was naked, and and from where I was cat suit and then he took it down. And where I was, you could see his dick because I couldn't I hadn't quite got into the mosh picture.
SPEAKER_03And for those listening, he's not talking about out in the crowd, you were lying on the stage. That's right.
SPEAKER_02I could see your dick. Yep. Uh placebo, yep, garbage, friends of rom, they were uh just about it, everyone. And the headlining act was Ramstein, which was and they had pirates.
SPEAKER_03Carl Cox was headlining the boiler, which wasn't for me. Did you were you into drum bass back then?
SPEAKER_02No. No, I it wasn't until I moved out of home and one of my housemates um introduced me to that whole tr, you know, experience and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03Like 'cause that was my first concert. We For the first time ever, so uh smoked a weed stoga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We thought were the coolest kids. We all felt so fucking sick afterwards. But straight after we're like, we'll go in the boiler room. Uh huh. Went in. There was literal robots with TV screens as heads playing a DJ set in there at that point. Like um, I d I just remember they had one song and it was like, We are the robots, was the chorus. Okay. I thought it was something to do with what we'd smoked, yeah, and I was like, I'm never, I'm never doing this again.
SPEAKER_02Well, like Ramstein just blew me away. I could feel the pyromaniacs, the heat. Yeah, he came out with a huge dick, and it was it was really big, but it wasn't big enough that it was fake. And so, like, and then he started pissing over the crowd.
SPEAKER_03But then after two minutes of pissing and it was still going, it's like I'm I just think like you know I remember the people all around me in the crowd because I uh both of us grew up absolutely obsessed with the Family Values Tour. Yep. And he does that in that video. Yes. I had on VHS. I still got on VHS, it's right behind you. I I think I gave you that, did I? Potentially. I think you gave me the C D version, maybe? I can't remember. Maybe I've uh yeah, yeah. Anyway. So I remember growing up, and because it's in that, yeah, I was prepared for it. Yeah, the people around me are like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I know. It was just bonkers. Yeah, sorry, funny. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03What's the best concert you've ever been?
SPEAKER_02Best concert. Again, I've got the ticket right here. The best concert is Peter Coomb at the Ghost. Pretty much, man. Yep. So this will be second best out of the side from Peter Coomb. It is, of course, uh the year.
SPEAKER_03Worn Fear Factory and Static X. Static X. What a fucking lineup.
SPEAKER_02At the Melbourne uh Rob Labour Arena, and uh unfortunately, Fear Factory were very unenergetic. They he sort of almost sat down on the stage. I'm like, fuck you, man.
SPEAKER_03Was it still um Burton singing? Or is this when Christian taken away? No, he he was um because that would have been their dying days though, pretty much.
SPEAKER_02I think, and I think that's why he just had no energy, you know, and things. Static X were insane. I was I didn't have I still don't have an album of theirs, but they put on a phenomenal show. His hair defies gravity and stuff like that. Yeah, but corn, oh my fucking god, like corn were the coolest. It's been the one of the few concerts where I've known every lyric to every song. Yeah, you know, as soon as they start doing the um you know plums for the next song, I'm like, oh that's this song type thing. It was just so crazy. And then intermission between the um shows, we went and you know, outside and got some air and stuff, and people were practicing playing tennis and stuff like that, like proper, probably proper professionals. So every metal head there was grunting for them. Like I think they packed up after a couple of sets and just left because they couldn't. I can imagine all these fuckheads. That's like a nightmare. Oh nightmare for them, a lifelong memory for me. Like just I'll never forget.
SPEAKER_03I uh moved out of um the class I was in and moved into drama. Yeah, and I was the only guy in my group of friends that was in the drama class, so I was like, it was like my free reign with all these girls, it was the best. Yeah, I'll never forget we had to do like a rehearsal performance in the hall, and my mates would work in class, they all had to come in the hall and like fix something in the hall while we're on the stage, and that's probably the exact feeling those tennis players have where it's like fuck now. I have to do it in front of people that I don't want to see it. That's so funny. Um if you could time travel anywhere, when and where are you going?
SPEAKER_02I I'm going to Japan, right? I'm going to Japan. I want to go there as soon as possible. Like it's on the bucket list and things. But if I any any time, it'd be the 80s or something like when when I could just have the Transformers were on the shelves, the the uh beast formers, all those sort of toys and things that that's a lot of words to say sex tourism, then we just yeah, we didn't know what was going on over there, and uh just to have that the the toy stores and things are next level compared to what anything we've seen over here.
SPEAKER_03So right now, what is the first format you remember owning music on? 100% cassette, right?
SPEAKER_02I got I got the um proclaimers, I would walk 500 miles from my sister for Christmas one year.
SPEAKER_03So did you happen to watch um How I Met Your Mother at all?
SPEAKER_02I've watched a few, but not all of them.
SPEAKER_03I'll never forget this one episode where Marshall's car has that tape stuck in his tape deck and have to drive like 16 hours across country, and it shows how you hate it, you love it the first few times. Yes, you hate it, then it comes back around again, and it just that song now, every time I think of it, I think of that show, even though I hated that show.
SPEAKER_02David Firth, the the YouTube that did um Salad Fingers and all that, he does a parody of that. He's like, you know, he is in this is the mainstream, you know, dance media pushing music. It's like I hate this, I hate this, oh it's okay, oh I'm actually loving it. Oh my god, I need to buy this, you know, album. It's just phenomenal.
SPEAKER_03There is a mix I remember popping up on like social a lot, and it is just the the backup singers' vocals, like just certain things, and it's quite hilarious because you don't realise how much they alternate in a weird way. Yep, yep. Um what's your death row meal?
SPEAKER_02Oh, definitely uh double cheeseburger with extra pickles from 127 days. Good answer.
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SPEAKER_03Um, all right. Imagine you find a nostalgic corner shop, it has every snack you've ever seen. You've got just enough money to get one drink, one snack, and one ice cream. What is your lineup?
SPEAKER_02Alright, so drink is going to be the clear collar um Simpsons the cans. Uh I don't even know, I can't remember if they taste any good, but just the experience of uh having that and then pouring a little bit out to see how if it's clear or not, because you can't even see if it's in a can. Uh snack, they're still making them today. Sandboy barbecue chips. I I overpowered with flavour. They they just can't go wrong.
SPEAKER_03They're the smell issue. The them and burger rings for me, yep, they're the thing. If someone in your classroom was eating the other side of the classroom, you could fucking smell them like who was eating that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. And uh ice cream still made today, rainbow paddle pop ice cream. Yep.
SPEAKER_03No, no, there's no wrong answers, but that's the right answer for sure.
SPEAKER_02Yep. 100%.
SPEAKER_03All right. Uh the history of consoles for your household. What did you grow up with and what were the standout games?
SPEAKER_02So we definitely had uh PCs when we were um growing up, but uh my first thing was a Game Boy, right? The old grey brick. And then uh me and my brother saved up and got a Nintendo 64, so that was absolutely classic. Stayed on the Nintendo game train, and uh GameCube was next. Uh, and then um I got a PS1 because that's what everyone else had. Yeah, and you could chip them, so I think I had five legit games and about 50 burnt games, you know.
SPEAKER_03I spent I think a whole Christmas holidays in Road Rash 3E to the point where I knew the way around there better than I did my own hometown. It was yeah, man, whatever when the chipping came out, I still remember having to go to the local um office supplier because the guy there did it, and like he'd come out from the beaty curtain in the back, and he's like, Oh, who who who do you know? Like, who told you about this? And he was real like, you know, concerned. And it was like for five dollars you could get just the CD burnt, yeah, or for ten dollars he'd photocopy the jacket, like colour photocopy the jacket. So I had all these games, but I remember getting uh Silent Hill. Yes, and right it because I hate horror games, it scares the shit out of me, and there's no fixing it. Like you're late at night in your own room, and there's like you can't go, I'm still so I remember when it says turn the darkness down until you can't see the square. Yeah, I'm like fuck you, yeah, yeah. Turn the brightness all the way up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02100% Radio.
SPEAKER_03Um best Christmas gift or birthday gift you ever got.
SPEAKER_02This was so hard. So I got it down to two. So G1 Transformers Soundwave. Uh got that in 1986 when my brother was born.
SPEAKER_03Not the best transformer, but the best toy.
SPEAKER_02Uh, I'd argue that, yeah. Uh, I love Soundwave. And uh the next one was Tyco Fast Tracks RC carp in the early 90s. Yeah. But you know, classic parents, they didn't charge the batteries, so it was four hours until I could race it, and then I had a whopping eight minutes of you know runtime, and then bang, straight back onto the recharge uh bay to uh do it. But I god, I love that thing.
SPEAKER_03The kid that lived behind me about around those times, he got the scorcher six by six, yeah, yeah, it was six wheels. And his dad, like because his dad was a bit of a like nerdy hobbyist, yeah. So he took it up and he charged it, but he tinkered and stuff, right? So my mate drove it on Christmas morning flying around, yeah, and it got it didn't get speed wobbles, but you know when you turn and it's so touchy, yeah. He basically T-boned the curb and it didn't run again. Well, it still ran, but not the way it was supposed to. Right. But I'll never forget like we always wonder because we saw other people with like the Scorchers 6x6, it was never that fast. Yeah, okay. And I was like, I wonder if he souped it up or if we just remember it differently.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a turbo button, you could put it on regular and turbo.
SPEAKER_03So he'd probably fiddle with it, so turbo was like the normal, yeah, yeah, yeah. Alrighty. Um you get to pick one film and one song for the entire world to experience. What are we watching? What are we listening to?
SPEAKER_02Alright, I'm going something uh that sort of showcases to society how um fucked everything is. So I was gonna go for the road, right? Fuck that movie, Ben.
SPEAKER_03Stop bringing it up.
SPEAKER_02Stop trying to make it a bit then I I doubled down and I went for the platform, right? Just to show how society shits on the you know those that need and things. Uh and then uh for the song I put Mad World Tears for Fears. Lovely. At the same time, it'd be real that that'll really uh you know divide the um anyone that's got any concerns and things, yeah.
SPEAKER_03If a goosebumps I'll try to speak English. If a goosebumps book was written about your biggest fear, what would it be called?
SPEAKER_02Probably something like falling fear or something like that. I'm I'm terribly afraid of heights, and I just you know, anything there where I'm not completely uh locked in and things like that, I'd be, you know, not good at um yeah, so something like that.
SPEAKER_03Let's find out what kind of person you are on your phone. How chaotic is it? How many unread text messages or emails?
SPEAKER_02No, I can't I keep up to date. I I cannot uh fathom having you know little ones and stuff uh in red sitting at the bottom. Uh I've seen some of my um friends and work colleagues have like 79 and things like that. I just no, that's I have to clear it. I I have to clear it and I ha I've got a bit of a routine where I work around the social medias and uh clear it each other.
SPEAKER_03I will every every maybe couple of months I'll like write in like Timu and then select all and delete them. Right. But I'm still I'm in the thousands, Ben. It would be so upsetting. Um if you could live in any fictional universe for a week, where are you going?
SPEAKER_02My you don't need to ask this to anyone else because I've won this one. Ready, player one, the oasis, right?
SPEAKER_03What a choice! It's not limited at all.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. I'm going to the dark reaches of the uh universe and I'm staying in the uh you know the game section and just fucking milk milking it up, man.
SPEAKER_03Hard yeah, favorite store growing up.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it has to be I love department stores because mum could do go and do her shopping, but I could also have an area where I could just be left alone type thing. You get the uh better prices in a department store, and honestly, there was none that stood out more than John Martin's. Like John Martin's really does live up to the um hype that Darren sort of promoted to. I unfortunately wasn't uh living in Adelaide as young as he was, type thing, so I missed out on the um late 80s, so I sort of saw it early 90s onwards, and it still was insane. Like I have clear memories of seeing the Kenner Aliens and Predator in their glass cabinet all set up and just just being I I need them. I I absolutely have to find a way to get them, and all these years later I've finally completed the line. So yeah.
SPEAKER_03I see that um because you guys promoted on your uh podcast the the Remember Johnny's book. Yes, yes. And there's now like a doco to go along with it. I believe so.
SPEAKER_02I haven't seen it yet, but uh yeah, if that that's gonna be amazing. Like uh just a a true and a South Australian as well. There's not that much that comes out of Australia, you know, let alone South Australia and and so many core memories and things, something that we did so well uh that the rest of the unfortunately didn't, you know, pass the ages. Um yeah so a bit sad.
SPEAKER_03Choose one celebrity to be your spouse.
SPEAKER_02Scarlett Johansson. She's 41 years old, Lansing criteria, pre um reduction, please. Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Uh so actually we were watching um we were watching the beach the other day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I hadn't seen no, not the beach, sorry. The island. Islands, yes. And I hadn't seen it since it came out. Yep. And I only read recently that Michael Bay wouldn't let her do a topless. Yeah, I know. Fuck that.
SPEAKER_02And and and Sin City, she wanted to um take her like uh Nancy in the comic books, uh, wouldn't wouldn't let her. Fucking rude bastards.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Objectifying, it's not good. Alright, and recommend one podcast.
SPEAKER_02Well, I'm not gonna recommend my own. So um phone hacks podcast. Uh I'm really loving them. They're uh comedians Mike Goldstein and Nick Kappa. Uh they swap phones, they get another um comedic guest, so there's three of them in the room, they sm swap phones, spin a dial, and essentially, right, you're going through um, you know, photos, or you're going through send a message to a celebrity or send a message to a loved one or something like that, and they just come up with the most crooked shit. And you can imagine, like, if I gave you my phone and you'd be looking at internet history and seeing what I've got up to. Uh it's just so funny and things. And I've I listened to a modern episode first, loved it, instantly, instant hit. I was laughing and things like that. So I went back to episode one and I'm slowly working my way through. And that's the best way of any if you really love a podcast, go back to their roots, yeah, and then you get a feel for their dynamics, their uh the thing is their categories, and even though they've fine-tuned a lot of it, it wouldn't still be going if it didn't have strong foundations.
SPEAKER_03So it's always a good thing. Like I I've got into a few podcasts and they're in the like the 300s and more. Yeah, and yeah, you listen mod and then you go back. Like I did that with last podcast on the left and just didn't look back.
SPEAKER_02No, no, it's it's gold, yeah. So yeah, phone hosts podcast still going today, and uh 300 plus ebbs, I don't know, but it's amazing, really funny, yeah, good podcast.
SPEAKER_03Radio. Now there is a reason you're invited this week to the Dave Cave. I wanted to talk to you all about pop culture, and I thought one of the best ways to do that, similar to my old podcast, we'd be looking at some of your favorites. But I thought we'd do a five and five. So we're doing five of your favourite albums, five of your favourite films, and I want to start things off with you mentioned them already, but it is an album from 1997. It is the Prodigy's fat of the land. Yeah, man. Tell us about this.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so that so if you talk about, you know, like my roots in dance, music, or drum and bass and segments. Or dance if you're from New South Wales. Um, it all started with Prodigy. Like Prodigy was there, um, it was uh, you know, here's Johnny and things like that. That real darkus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, okay. Um or cocaine and things like that. That was just that was so dark. I was like imagining, you know, these clubs that are playing that sort of thing. Never um, you know, went to any of them, but still I loved the prodigy.
SPEAKER_03What's trying any kid to tell me when the Firestarter music video came out? I don't care how old you were, yeah, that scared the shit out of me.
SPEAKER_02Well, that was the uh black and white one, wasn't it? And then um uh Smack My Bitch Up.
SPEAKER_03Brief as well, and then Smack My Bitch Up was the POV.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that that I think that made me seeing that on Rage made me fall in love with the band, you know, immensely because it totally shocked me at the end where they pull that. Well, yeah, the twist. You know, it's like, oh my god, what the heck?
SPEAKER_03So that that album, because of Smack My Bitch Up, was criticized highly before its perceived misogyny. MTV banned it and edited versions of the video, so the twist didn't even arrive.
SPEAKER_02Oh, so I saw I saw the whole thing. Rage always played the original version, and then at the end she sits up on the bed. Yeah, you're like, yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Um the band insisted that the song was about losing control, not liberal violence. Yep. This album was a fucking monster. Yeah, it was.
SPEAKER_02It was their third album, and they were just smashing it. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So hits, like we said, it had Firestarter Breathe, Smack My Bitch Up, Diesel Power with Cole Keith, and Narien, which is I don't like the chill, I don't I'm not here for chill beats. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But that was just serial thriller as well.
SPEAKER_03I think this album sums up, like if you've seen the movie Boogie Nights, there's the bit where everything's getting tense, and there's the firecrackers are about to rob Alfred Molina's character, and it's just this sensory overload. I think Sister Christian's playing on the radio, and you just feel it building. Yeah. That's the vibe I get from Prodigy's music. It's just so intense, but it feels like it's building to something scary.
SPEAKER_02100%. And and like I'm a big I I I'm still super retro where I still listen to CDs. Yeah. And I'm a big fan of starting the album at track one and listening it right through.
SPEAKER_03Because like we now live in a day of streaming where it's singles. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Singles are all that matter. You just b listen to that favourite song or those favourite two songs off the album and then skip it. Like these albums that I've chosen tonight or today or whatever you're listening. Like I listen to track one all the way through to the final track, and then this and then my CD discs changes.
SPEAKER_03Or the golden age of the hidden track.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I've got one of these um albums that's got a couple of times. That shits me.
SPEAKER_03The amount of fucking albums now, like I know um, because I I stream everything now, even though I do listen to CDs. Um Smash has a hidden track at the end. Well, Smash is the hidden track at the end of it with the 10 minutes at the end. They just label it and put it out there and it takes it takes away. Erake in my eye from Korn's Follow the Leader that is now just listed.
SPEAKER_02But Follow the Leader, I actually bought that for a friend, but prior to me buying it myself. Yeah. Listen, and I'm like, I'm gonna have a cheeky listen to this. Yeah. It started off and it's just blank, blank, blank, track two, blank. And I'm like, Oh yeah, CD's fucked. Yeah. So we took it back. We took it back to the store, and she put it on and she's like, Oh yeah, it's fucked. Oh, we'll get another one. So we grabbed another one, put it on, and still same thing. And then I think she pressed random, and then we heard one of the songs, and it was through because there's no fucking internet, like no one's no one's stopping rage halfway through a song and be like, hey, when you buy this album, you know, make sure you skip to track 13 because they're superstitious, they didn't want to end it on track 13, they wanted to start. No one's telling you that shit, you know. Um it might have been in magazines and things, but nothing that I was actively picking up, you know. It's just so I I learnt the heart very, very hard way by get almost getting a refund at the store for a gift that it all starts at 13, and then I sort of like it's fucked, but it's also very clever, and I felt a bit of rock and roll, you know, like so.
SPEAKER_03Other than the big day art, have you seen Prodigy Again Live?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I did, but and it was right before they released uh Invaders Must Die album. Yep. So I'm not as I said before, I'm a big CD listener, so I didn't listen to all their um newer tracks on uh Spotify, what it's iTunes or whatever they had up then. So I didn't recognise a lot of their songs. Yeah, Napster, yeah, yeah. I didn't recognise their modern songs, so it's like every second song, it's like I know that one, but I don't know this one type thing.
SPEAKER_03The old age, I like your new stuff, I like your old stuff, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So it was a bit bit fucked, and I wish and then I bought the album like when it was released a couple weeks later, yeah. And I'm like, after a couple of listens, I'm like, this is almost as good, if not better, than you know, all their previous albums. Yeah, but I didn't have that knowledge prior to seeing them. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03Like to I wasn't in at the concert, I hadn't heard their new stuff because you're up on Ree's shoulders with your tits out, with the lighter up in the air, and you're like yeah, yeah, yeah. You just look real sad because you don't know the words.
SPEAKER_02I I'd shave my pubes like his head.
SPEAKER_03It's weird you decided to wear your rollerblades up on Rhee's shoulders, but anyway, it it's quite the picture. I love it. So let's look at your first movie. Um, you have worn this love on your sleeve since the day I met you. Yep. We both met at the Mega Toy Fair, and I'm pretty sure you had some kind of aliens that you just purchased. Probably. We are talking about 1986's Aliens, released in uh July 18, directed by James Cameron, the man responsible for some of the greatest films, and the Avatar films. Um, this one made $183 million worldwide, and it stars Sigorney Weaver, Michael Bean, who was unjustly killed in the third one, Bill Paxton, Lance Hendrickson, and honestly, this is as much as I Terminate 2 will always be my favourite film of all time. Yep. I will admit that Aliens is probably a superior sequel in the fact that Terminator 2 is just kind of a a bigger build of Terminator 1. Aliens is a complete genre change from it's a slow burn horror film, the original alien film. You then watch this fucking over-the-top sci-fi action film that is aliens. Uh huh. How good was it at Radical Rewind seeing the special edition on the big screen with the the guns? Yeah. Because I hadn't until we met, I'd seen Aliens as a kid. Yeah. Until you told me about it, I did not know about the special edition. Yeah. And see that whole scene where the aliens deliberately calculatedly run all the gun ammo out.
SPEAKER_02Well they they they they the what that happens is they um they run the gun gun ammo out, but then they get like Okay, we're not getting through with like 30 bullets left on each turret. They're like, we're not getting through. We need to find another way. That's why they go up through the ceiling. That's why because they can't.
SPEAKER_03They just decide to go to the above the walkway.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And the fact that uh um Ripley's like, oh, your daughter's now 50 something, you know, she's 60 or something years old. She passed away two, three years ago. Because she's been in hypersleep for 50 years, you know, it's just so fuck that that must fuck her up so much. And that's why she has such a fixation to Newt because she would have been the same age as when she left.
SPEAKER_03Everyone pulls their put about like fucking Interstellar. And it's like, oh, Murphy dies an old lady when he gets back as time's relative. It's like you've just stolen the theme from aliens. But um, do you remember how old you were when you like were you a little kid or did you see this?
SPEAKER_02I was probably, you know, 11 or 12, I reckon. Like I wasn't super young, but the I had the fortunate thing of having a lot older cousins, and they'd tell me stories, like they'd they told me stories about aliens and things like that, and alien.
SPEAKER_03That's how I got into the toxic uh Avenger films. It was my cousins, older cousins are like, oh, and this happens and this happens. And because you don't paint it in the right vibe, like I always thought Toxic Avenger, and particularly the sequels, was super fucking gory horror. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then to watch and realise how stupid it is, but in your brain, you built it up because you know, oh that sounds horrific.
SPEAKER_02And it was all watched on like free-to-wear TV. Yes. So I watched Alien first, and I was like, oh my god, this is just I was so it was one of my parents were out and we had a babysitter, yeah, and I was watching in the lounge room, and I remember just shitting myself. I was almost sitting behind the couch watching And this was only last week, yeah. That's right, and um then and then all aliens came on and I was like, this is just blew me away, like the action and stuff like that. And then we, you know, not too long after that, we're going to John Martin's and we're seeing a display case of alien toys, it's all just maring up imperfectly, and I'm just like, this is this is the coolest time to be alive ever type thing. It was just all flowing into effect, and uh, I just fell in love with it. I couldn't get enough of the movies and things like that. You'd go down the movie store and you just rehired and that's how I found out about the special edition. I'm telling all my friends about it, you know, go and check out this special edition. And the movie holds up. Like there's not many parts of the movie that you can tell that's a screen in the background rather than you know things. But you watch CGI and stuff like that, and it's like that's obviously CGI, but when it's puppetry and something that was already, you know, six years old by the time I watched it, it was fucking phenomenal.
SPEAKER_03Well, even like with practical, like everyone sings its praises, but uh for obviously we had May the 4th recently. Yeah, I decided rather than go back to the trilogy. I and you know, the prequels be what they may. Yeah, I decided to watch Rogue One again. Yeah, that's a classic. There is so much practical puppetry with the characters and suits. There's guys in masks, whereas now everything's CGI. Yeah, it it looks fucking it looks better than the prequel trilogy, hands down, in my opinion. Yeah, agreed, couldn't agree more. Yep. Awesome. All right, let's look at your next CD in The Selector. As we go back to 1999, now this album it turns shows a turning point in Korn's career, so it's Korn's issues from 99. Yep. Uh it always felt to me like they had become like a Metallica level metal band. So Follow the Leader came out. I don't know, much like Smash from Offspring, there's no one that I went to high school with, even the other high school that was in town. Everyone owned Follow the Leader. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And Corn, I feel like, you know, true to their metal and like punk roots, they're like, you know what? We could lean into these, like, you know, because uh at the point, Follow the Leader was their most um polished 100%. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'd say their their most hook songs, like the the most poppy songwriting. They could have become metallica where they go, all right, we're just gonna lean into that and do that now. This feels like the album where Korn's like, you know what? We need to show that we're still a fucking metal band at heart. Yep. I think this was rawer, heavier, and less mainstream. Yeah, like not, you know, everyone's a sellout, not that kind of thing. Yeah, but it's definitely nowhere as palatable as Follow the Leader was. Yep. Um and do you know who did the music video for Falling Away from me? The director of that.
SPEAKER_02It was um Todd McFarlane, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_03No, that was your thinking Freak on the Leech. Freaking, sorry. Uh a much better artist than Todd McFarlane. He's better than everything. One Mr. Fred Durst directed the Falling Away from me. This album featured uh standout tracks, Falling Away From Me, Make Me Bad, Somebody Someone, which has that incredible fight club-esque um music video where the camera goes into their microphone and there's all the bugs and stuff. Yep, yep, yep. Um but yeah, this was way rawer. And they also, I think, because you know, after their first few, you know, like Life is Peachy and their first few albums, they got a bit formulaic where they're like, Alright, we just need to put the slap bass in. Jonathan will do his scat. They didn't want to be fucking formulaic anymore. They're like, Oh, anyone could write a corn album. So that they they come out with this and they dropped a lot of that slap bass. And as much as I love it in Follow the Leader, you go further back to like Life is Peachy and stuff. It's pretty fucking annoying in a lot of a lot of things. But this is yeah, d tell me why you fell in love with this album.
SPEAKER_02I love this. I like a lot of people would say uh Follow the Leader is their favourite album type thing, if you're a corn fan, but I found it a bit too experimental. Like they had the you know, starting at track 13, which we talked about before. Um, a lot of cover of Cheech and Chong. Yeah, a lot of uh mixes with other artists and things, like Fred Durst was on a couple of things and stuff.
SPEAKER_03Corn the family, some of the greatest lyrics.
SPEAKER_02Don't get me wrong, it's a good song, but it's very it's not corn. You know, if you were to listen to that out of uh if it came on your Spotify thing, you'd be like, Who is this? Or you'd think you wouldn't naturally say it's a corn song, you'd say it's a someone else type song. So I think I feel they're very experimental, but this one was back to their roots, really showing polished music and things like that. Um my uh favourite track is Big For Me, right? And unfortunately that never had an official video thing for it, but I just think they were really um you know pushing the limits for their album and stuff, came out with four different covers. I've got the um chalk drawing. Oh yes, that's the one I said. Yeah, because there's also the like the the that's my favourite, but I don't know why I got this one, but and then uh two others. Um yeah, I just for me this was the better album. Uh that I could if I was listening to it on repeat, you know, in the thing, this would be the one that would get played more often than Follow the Leader. So yeah.
SPEAKER_03Fuck yeah. How many times have you seen Corn Life?
SPEAKER_02Uh only once. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_03At that concert. Yeah, that concert, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So and I've had the opportunity to go again, like they came a couple of years ago or something, rewent. But I'm I'm a big advocate for I don't want to ruin it. Like I don't know any of their modern stuff. I know they're still um, you know, making it.
SPEAKER_03That's why I didn't go see Tool the last two times I've been. I'm like, this isn't for me. Yeah, unless you're gonna play your first couple hours.
SPEAKER_02I think I peaked at uh seeing them back in 2004, yeah. And I don't think I know every song and things, it'd be like seeing the um Prodigy again where they're playing songs that I don't recognise, and I don't I don't want that feeling, it's not cool. Yeah, uh so anyway, yeah.
SPEAKER_03All right, on the movie side of things, we're going back to 1987. It is a movie that once almost starred Jean-Claude Viendam. We're talking about Predator from 87. What a film.
SPEAKER_02Oh fuck, man. This is just a one-liner film you can't try muscle each other up the whole way through.
SPEAKER_03Like just every few generations of film, a game changer comes along, and then it not only pushes forward the you know the art form, yeah, it holds it back for the next five years. Because much like when The Matrix came out, I'd liken this to like the Matrix, Fight Club, even Aliens, Terminator, they came out and then all the copycats come along. Yeah. Because every studio goes, Predator was incredible. Yeah, we need that. And you get for the next five years, yeah, every middle of the road like film is a version of it. Um, even to this day, like War Machine that released this year on Netflix, straight up just Predator with a fucking robot instead of a predator. Yeah, we're getting all these sequels, expanded universes, um, you know, Josh Trashenberg from the uh Fantastic Four remake that no one liked. He is just running with the Predator franchise and he's killing it.
SPEAKER_02Yes, he is, he's doing very well. They're they're doing some amazing films.
SPEAKER_03Aliens had the uh more films at one stage, and now Predator seems to be catching up and uh well unfortunately there's more bad aliens films now than there is Predator, which is insane. Yep. Uh but I loved Predators. Uh yeah, Pred Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02I've lost him. I've lost him. Um Schwarzneger, I he's just at his peak in that. Um, everyone says from Dust of Dawn it's like two movies. Well, you could argue that Predator is essentially two movies because if you showed someone that didn't know, you know, without any context, they'd think, oh, this is a war movie. You turn it off after the raid of the village, exactly. Exactly. Uh just the whole concept of their alien hunting, and they you know put in so much lore and stuff like that. If it bleeds, we can kill it, you know, get to the chopper, like just such classic lines. I I just quite rate this enough.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's definitely by the measurement of sequels, it's a better film than the original Terminator because it got topped by its sequel. Still to this day, none of the sequels of Predator have outshone how good this movie was and how timeless it is. There's your slurs in it, but hey, yeah, it was the time, it was a different time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, Ben actually says those slurs all the time when he's not recording, just a little FYI for those listening home. Um, created by Stan Winston. I love that the T-Rex in Jurassic Park was designed by the same guy that created the Terminator as well as the Predator.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and uh shout out to Bill Paxton for getting killed by a Terminator Predator and an alien sort of thing.
SPEAKER_03As did Lance Hendrix Radio back into the albums, and let's go to the year of 2000. It was new Metal Heavy. We're talking about Head PE's broke. Yep. Uh I listened again to this on your suggestion, and holy shit, I think that they head PE never got the recognition they deserve for the sound that they had because it's a much heavier rage against the machine. Yep. It implements it's basically the blueprint of new metal without lessen, like it's self-serious. Like you'd get the watered down version of this, which was Crazy Town. Yep. Then you'd get things like that's the radio.
SPEAKER_02You know, the radio. That's what I mean. That's the radio version.
SPEAKER_03This is a self-serious uh new metal album. It features gangster rap elements because the the lead singer is actually African American. So he gets to say that word that it's still quite jarring when he says it. Uh features a great song from Surge Tangent from uh System of a Down.
SPEAKER_02And and uh combined with Kitty, uh the chick from uh Kitty uh whatever her name was, um Rogan Lander or whatever. Morgan, Morgan Rander, that that's one of the coolest tracks. Like, because it they're not outdoing each other, they just sort of pop in, do their own bit, and walk away from it. It reminded me actually today.
SPEAKER_03I was like, oh, you know what something I'm gonna add to my playlist? It is uh Licking Cream Cream by Skin and Zeven Dust. I was like, oh man, but even this. This is a heavier Seven Dust, a lot more rap elements in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was gonna say that, yeah. But yeah, it features uh the song uh bartender, and like I don't know if you remember, remember in the 90s whenever like an album would cause like um you know big controversies and stuff, yeah, and news readers would read out the lyrics and stuff. I was like reading along because I had it on Spotify where it plays the lyrics, and I was just thinking how funny it would be because man, some of these songs are fucking filthy.
SPEAKER_02Oh, there's some uh yeah, definitely not one to uh broadcast in front of your kids. There's some really controversial tracks and talking about you like bartender, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um it reminded me of that uh fever for the flavor that oh uh you'd know the song, it's fucking filthy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like lot of lot of sexual innuendos and things like that.
SPEAKER_03Um I think the two best songs from Head Piggy are on this album, and to me, it's bartender and killing time.
SPEAKER_02Yep, yep. I've got uh Waiting to Die as my favourite track, and unfortunately that one didn't have a uh film clip to it, but uh bartender's the one where they're in the the cage and all the everyone's gone rioting and things, throwing um bottles and things at the uh cage while they play. It's just such a intense type scene, you know, like something you'd see in a movie or whatever, uh where chaos is uh induing. And um this this another album that just start to finish absolute killer tracks, like just fantastic. Um you know what?
SPEAKER_03I like I think they don't because obviously they didn't have quite the commercial success for a lot of the other bands of the time, but like I said, you've got a heavier rage against machine sound, you've got like you know, the Seven Dust type, it's like it's it really is a mixed bag of everything that was new metal, yeah. But before it became a joke of itself, like new metal, as much as my all-time favourite music is it did become a parody of itself where it's like, all right, we just need to DJ do some scratches, yeah, white boy rap, yeah, then some heavy riffs and stuff. Yeah, but you know, mean we're sitting here talking, we're two people that love bands like um Third Strike, and like those lesser-known new metal bands, Lifer, there's heaps. Yep. Back to the movie side of things, speaking of game changers a little bit earlier, Batman 1989.
SPEAKER_02Oh god, Batman 1989. Like this, Tim, everyone was a bit concerned about Tim Burton and definitely no confidence in Michael Keaton coming uh doning the the uh cowl were coming off the um 66 Batman of uh, you know, that that sort of comical Batman was a joke. Yeah, Batman it would I don't he wasn't a joke, he just wasn't as serious as he was being depicted in the comic books, uh sort of thing, like the 70s and things. You know, 66 was it's a snapshot in time, and that was sort of um prelevant in the uh TV series, but then the 70s and things took on a more serious take of Batman, and you know, you had that sort of thing. Frank Miller brought in the um uh Dark Knight returns and stuff like that. So there was the the comic books evolved, but um Batman 66 didn't write it just kept on. And why why would it when you r when the ratings are going through the roof and things like that? You know, people it was is okay to show any age group and things like that.
SPEAKER_03Uh it was I loved every year at the Mega Toy Fair and the Batman 66 Batmobile would be parked up, yeah. And all these dudes older than us were like, yeah, and I was like, yeah, fucking lame.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. So definitely grew up with the 66 Batman, and uh then you know I got my Batman figure from Superpowers, Kenna Superpowers. I had a penguin and a robin and things like that, and then Batman 89 came out, definitely didn't see it at the cinemas, but I caught it on TV maybe you know nine months later or something, and I was just absolutely blown away that this comical Batman that I only knew of and things like that was so serious, so dark, so gritty. And I think that's sort of evolved my horror, my passion for horror and things like that because his dark brooding. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just I absolutely loved it, it was flawless. Loved the traject trajectory that Batman uh Tim Burton took into Batman Returns and things like that.
SPEAKER_03Well, think about it. Before then, there was 66. Since then, it's maybe every three years they give us more Batman.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Noel ran so Tim Burton could you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03Um but even you think about it, there's never gonna be another movie released where 40 years later people are still talking about buying toys. I honestly don't think it. I think movies now have a shelf life of like ten years. Yeah. Because they're just they don't invoke the passion that they used to do. No, no, and I think a lot of that has to do with not just quality but quantity as well. Yeah. Like because back then they'd try everything once.
SPEAKER_02Some are blockbusters and things. Now, now it's just like, oh, you know, what's on Netflix now type thing, you know?
SPEAKER_03The amount of focus groups that you have to get ticks from before a movie even gets made now. Whereas back then it was like fucking, let's make Shaq a genie. Yeah, that's a movie. Shack attack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bring it back, honestly. It's and at the time I love the story that Jack Nicholson decided to do a back-end deal where he's like, Oh, you know, you don't need to pay me my usual fee, because he was like, he wanted to do it. Yeah. But I want a percentage of what the movie makes. Which, if the movie bombed, he basically made the movie for free. Yeah. The fact it was the biggest movie of the 90s for a good fucking like nine years or whatever.
SPEAKER_02He's probably still getting royal. Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03You know, that's why he's in such good shape. Yep. That is good, very good choice. Now we're looking back onto your musical list as we go over to the year 2001. Now, this is a very I'd say this is probably the most obscure track that uh album that you've picked on your list from 2001. It is Mushroom's Head XX. Yep. I found out just I used to love this. Solitaire Unraveling. You actually brought this up when we were traveling recently. This came on my playlist, and you're like, fuck yeah. Yeah. I didn't realise this wasn't an actual album. They had released three albums and then finally got signed because the history of Mushroom Head is pretty interesting. Yep. They started out as a side project of other metal bands. Yeah. They didn't want to undersell, like, because the other bands were their serious bread and butter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They decided to wear costumes and masks so no one knew who they were. So no one's going, like, I'm not going to see your band twice. Yeah. You know, I'm not going to, it's just the same band. Yep. So they started wearing masks five four or five, maybe it was three or four years into their run. Another band come along wearing masks. Slipknot. Slipknot. They got a major record deal. But this album was the major record label picked him up and said, Hey, you guys have got amazing history so far. You've had three albums do really good independently. Yep. No one knows who you guys are. Yeah. They made this a compilation. So this is, even though it was released as an album, it's the best songs of three different, but it's not called a best of. It is considered because it's the first major record release, it is probably the most musically weird. I'd call this the weirdest one of your choices because it's kind of all over the shop. It's very theatrical. Yeah. Um, I remember listening to this at the time. I was into another band called American Head Charge, and they were touring with Mushroom Head. And I think Mushroom Head signed a Roadrunner Records, which I used to buy anything with a Road. I was such a label seller.
SPEAKER_02I used to get magazines, Roadrunner magazines and things, and I've still got some of the singles or the albums that they used to start. Sweating bullets. Yeah, that's it. I've got three, four, and five that I uncovered in my little cleanup the other day. Crazy. I I Mushroom Head eight band members with two vocalists, right? And you can I that's the thing I love about Mushroom Head is the two vocalists. Like pre-um, what's his name? Uh what's that other Lincoln Park? Lincoln Park. You know, it's sort of pre-them. And the But it is the same kind of formula. Jump off each other.
SPEAKER_03One's got a real unique, different voice, and the other one's got your traditional metal voice. Yep. But they both are so good at what they do, but it's so different. Like it is definitely one of those bands, and I think they've had trouble in the later years. None of the singers are going to pull it off on their own. No, no, no. You need that dynamic in the time.
SPEAKER_02So just much like Head PE and Mushroom Head, these are the only albums I own of this band, and I don't think I need any more. Um, this particular album, XX, comes with 15 tracks, and then there's a bonus uh track on 43, which is essentially um, you know, a repeat um sort of remix of one of the songs. Yep. And um the the best track, in my uh uh opinion, is Before I Die, and that's got the uh video clip very seepia. I was gonna say it's very melodic. That's probably their softest song, but um it's also uh I like yeah, it's also um got backstageness and you know shenanigans and all that sort of stuff, playing live and things like that. A real peek behind the curtain and showing that they're real people behind the masks type thing. Uh they're very favourable guns and things like that. I don't really, you know, f uh faithfully um condone what they say and things like that. I just think the music is amazing, so yeah.
SPEAKER_03Next we are looking at your movie choice from 1993. It's a cartoon, it's the kids. It's a cartoon button for the kids. It is the film Ninja Scroll released in 1993 Japan. It is it got a limited theatrical release, but its cult success is unmeasurable. No major global total because of that, but honestly, this movie is fucked.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's it is it so I discovered this movie years and years ago through a friend's brother type thing who used to um you know he was a bit older, so he knew about this sort of things and and uh stuff. So, you know, seeing Ghost in the Shell, seeing Akira, which I to this day I just don't understand. I don't get it.
SPEAKER_03I love it, but I don't get it.
SPEAKER_02I like it, I like the visual appeal and things, some of the aspects are amazing. That motorbiking is a lot of things.
SPEAKER_03Well, if you like the visuals and don't care about the story, you know what you would like? Daft punk.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um, but uh never really under quite could wrap my head around the story as much as I tried. Apparently, there's so much comic of the manga missing in the movie that it's you know it's why I No one understands it, but fucking hell man, ninja scroll just blew my little head away. It is borderline X-rated because it's so much nudity, rape, um, gore. Uh, it really fleshes out how insane ninjas can be. Like, they are stealth, like they're flying through the trees faster than a car could drive on the ground. And there's not just one of them, there's like an army of them, and then like, oh, catch up, hurry up, you know, you're not fast enough.
SPEAKER_03The closest to the like obviously without the supernatural side of stuff. Yep. The closest to the depiction of ninjas in this is that movie Ninja Assassin. Yes, yes. And I just love the idea of like, for those that haven't seen it, there's like swarms of ninjas, and they all throw so quickly in so many ninja stars that it basically is like a machine gun. Like it shows it getting like wood behind them and it's just splintering into nothing.
SPEAKER_02Like in Predator, the Gatling gun taking out a forest. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But man, this movie is it's not just grim, it is violent as far. It's it's it's probably incredible to be a few. It's one of the one of the most intense animations I've seen in my life.
SPEAKER_02And it's a tight like uh what 80, 90 minutes or something. It's really tight, so it's rewatchability is insane.
SPEAKER_03I watched this so close to the 1995 Street Fighter 2 movie because that's when Madman started distributing all this stuff. Yep. And I remember I think I saw Fist of the Northern Star, which is shout-outs just got a new Netflix series.
SPEAKER_02Nice. And he he every time he fights he's like chun-chunch. Oh, problematic.
SPEAKER_03In saying that, they've been obviously May IV have been showing all clips and they keep showing the Viceroy.
SPEAKER_02I'm like, how did this get through? Um good times. Ninja Squirrel, the the uh demons are just you know so superhuman, it's ridiculous. The rock guy, the snake girl, uh the bee guy, you know, the guy that can just pull strings, just they're just so fantastical. And to this day, yeah, I haven't seen those replicated in in superhero form, yeah, you know, and things they're just so unique that so they they're almost you know untouchable. It it's so amazing. Were there any obviously because not for kids, were there any toys or collectibles? Unfortunately, there was a toy line uh created not too long ago, and I looked at shipping, and shipping was going to cost me more than the actual toy of the entire past. Um but uh they tried to make a sequel and it was shit. Like they they just they caught lightning in a bottle once and could never replicate it. And there's been comic books and things, but they just can't capture that magic, that fast-paceness, the you know, uh storyline. They just couldn't recapture that. You know, it's just a a ninja brother walking through the um the from A to B and he gets wrapped up with.
SPEAKER_03Well, the biggest thing I remember seeing in the video store back in the day.
SPEAKER_02It was rated M. Re this is hard R.
SPEAKER_03No, no, this is hard R, but I'm saying that the other ninja assassinate.
SPEAKER_02Oh yes, yes, yes, right, right. Yeah, yeah, interesting. I highly recommend it, but geez, don't show it to anyone, you know, sort of under the age of 21 because it is problematic hard. But I love it. I and and for that reason, uh the short runtime, it's probably one of my most re-watched animes. It's just that feel good, you know, like I've got nothing else to watch. Let's chuck on Ninja Squirrel. It's been been six months, yeah, trying to watch it again.
SPEAKER_03It's a comfort film. Yeah, yeah. But I've seen your favourite list of films, and fuck you like some grim stuff.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I do, I do, 100%. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Right. Looking at your last album now, I don't know much about it. I had a listen today and it was very a lot of the same, but that's just my outside of you. We're talking about 2005's Pendulum Hold Your Colour.
SPEAKER_02Yep. So Pendulum was uh amazing. They dropped onto the scene a Perth band uh that dropped onto the scene. This is sort of peak, me moving out of home, uh, you know, finding drum and bass through my housemate, and then I found this myself, like other than him handing, you know, spoon feeding me all his uh sort of music and stuff like that. Pendulum I found myself, uh, very heavy drum and bass and things, but they had a lot of the love and affection for um like Prodigy did.
SPEAKER_03I was gonna say they've been credited much like the Prodigy did with structuring drum and bass in a rock format. Well, they actually So you're getting verse choruses which you never used to get with drum and bass.
SPEAKER_02They actually come out and play with real instruments, it's not just all done on a DJ set.
SPEAKER_03And not just that, they they're pretty famous in Australia because at the time all your DJs were dressing with the fucking shiny shirts and all your like raving bullshit. They were coming out in like fucking smoke suit jackets and stuff, all gothy and fucking yeah, yeah, and um also very famous in Australia because they redid the um ABC.
SPEAKER_02And it's it's incredible, it's probably their best chat. Yeah, yeah. Rob Squire, who's the lead singer, he's um goes on, does a lot of uh other music and stuff like that with you know, helps out, and his voice uh is just amazing. So it's it's really cool. I love them. I've seen this is probably the one band I've seen the most, uh, and it's just something that I can go and see with my brother and things like that. Um pendulum are just the tits, but at the same time, I'm not gonna go and see modern stuff because I've sort of uh lost track of uh the the the whole live scene and things like that.
SPEAKER_03Sell it to anyone listening right now. Give us two tracks to check out that will sell them.
SPEAKER_02Uh Hold Your Colour is is my favourite track, unfortunately. No um thing, but uh I'd have to say like Slam or something like that. That's just yeah, and some of the um music tracks for this, they've got they blindfold them, right? And they're you know, so music's being played in the background, they blindfold like a team of people, and then they're like, right, go, and they have to run at as full pace, and they're running through traffic, running through the the woods and stuff like that. I think you meant they that's how they recorded it, isn't it? So they're they're running through, and then the obviously the first one that comes over the line, they went a your bucket full of cash or something like that. But just the whole energy levels of oh my god, you know, people are just getting wiped out by cars, they're running full pelt into trees, um, you know, they're they're falling off, tripping over shit. It's just insane. Sounds fucking great. Yeah, it's it's a really, really cool and and just the whole album's just amazing. And they've put out about three albums. Uh, they broke up, come back, you know. It's uh one of those type bands that um yeah, keep keep I think they'll soldier on through time in one shape or another.
SPEAKER_03So yeah, yeah. Now the final film on your list today, it is from Gwynton Tarantino. Uh many consider it his best. Pulp fiction.
SPEAKER_02Pulp fiction, man. This is an ensemble film that sort of uh pieces together different people's lives and stuff like that, and then bam, uh weaves them all together and makes a cohesive storyline, whether it's in and out of the timeline or not, it makes perfect sense.
SPEAKER_03Got some absolute banger actors in it that just but it's not just a masterclass in a film and dialogue writing and stuff, it also brought to the world the non-linear storytelling, which is you get and it's every blockbuster now. Every blockbuster now starts with the most exciting part of the film and then it jumps back and works its way up to that point. And this did it before it was trendy, before it was a thing. Yeah, it almost didn't get made because of that. Everyone's like, Can you just fucking do it in order? Like this is crazy.
SPEAKER_02Yep, yep. Um so many one-liners, so many little, you know, random storylines. Um what do you think's in the suitcase? Oh, that's a good question. I think it's gold bars or something. Yeah, that that's one of the things that we'll never answer, you know. Um, yeah, uh just quarter pound of Royale with cheese, like you know. I've never tasted one of them and I'll never know what uh is in the suitcase.
SPEAKER_03So well, believe it or not, that's your entire list. Five albums, five movies, everyone needs to check out. Uh what's what's your biggest pick from those two? I think the coolest nostalgia was revisiting head PE. Yep. Bro is fucking it it's it packs no punches. I actually remember them being a lot poppier than it was. Like I had them in line with like Papa Roach, so that was great. Yep. And just because we got to experience on the big screen last year, Aliens.
SPEAKER_02And thank you to Brett as well, you and Brett, because that that was a dream come true. You tease a little poke behind the curtain, you've teased it for me earlier in the year, and due to problems, we couldn't quite share it, and I wasn't sure if it was ever going to come, and then bam, it was uh up there on the big screen. And that was one movie I had I've seen Alien, I'd uh seen the special edition of Alien, seen Resurrection at the films, uh you know, who cares about Alien 3? And I've seen all the others at the cinema, but I never got a chance to see um Aliens, yeah, and that was pretty darn special. Seeing it with all my friends in a sold-out cinema. Yeah, just how good is it? And we yeah, just oh thank you.
SPEAKER_03So anytime. Well, thank you so much for being on the very first and last episode of the David Damage. So before you go, where can people check out everything you got going on, Bear?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Toy Power Podcast is my um podcast, so check it out on all the uh streaming services and things, or if you want to, I've got my own little thing going on uh Instagram and that's Shredder1982. Yep, look up Shredder1982, OnlyFans as well.
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